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Behemoth



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 13 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

What do you want them to do?

DorsetScott



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 13 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

earthyvirgo wrote:
DorsetScott wrote:
Bomb Threat - This is not a hoax!

Well, it would get it noticed


I think it would also mean I wouldn't get a look in!

EV


You said you wanted to be noticed. There's no pleasing some people

I'd go with something like hand crafted bird themed traditional lino prints for christmas.
I'd also suggest that whatever you send it will get read/noticed. You have the address for their purchasing department, and a name too so you're targetting the right people. Why not send the email and then follow up with a phone call 24 hours later or something to confirm it has reached the correct person/department?


I do however agree with Wentworth, an actual sample landing on someones desk showing the quality etc will probably be worth 10 emails

earthyvirgo



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 13 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Behemoth wrote:
What do you want them to do?


I'm approaching their Purchasing Department with a view to them using it for printing as cards, calendar maybe, something like that, or maybe commission similar work - I imagine (if they're interested), they want to have it for use under some sort of license ...which I'll need to swot up on!

EV

Went



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 13 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

You might have to accept that the purchasing cycle for this Christmas might have already passed you by. I suspect that stock for this year is already taken care of but there is always 2014...nationally - might need a scaling up of production if you won that one.

earthyvirgo



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 13 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Wentworth wrote:
Bird sightings
Rare bird prints
RSPB Member gifts
Artist request

Would a letter and samples not be better?


Mmm, possibly - I know they are very IT focused at HQ, so my gut feeling was that email with a good quality image or two would be less hassle for them ...if I offered to send samples f they were interested, that would save me time and postage initially.

With it being B + Wh work, there's no issues with inaccurate colours.

EV

earthyvirgo



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 13 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Wentworth wrote:
You might have to accept that the purchasing cycle for this Christmas might have already passed you by. I suspect that stock for this year is already taken care of but there is always 2014...nationally - might need a scaling up of production if you won that one.


Absolutely, several months ago I imagine

EV

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 13 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

get a name ,make a call,arrange a visit

sean
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 13 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Buy My Art Or The Avocet Dies...

vegplot



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 13 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I'd approach Mark Boyd and see if he can give you any insider tips.

Nick



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 13 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

dpack wrote:
get a name ,make a call,arrange a visit


This, to be honest. Email is a fairly poor communication method, far too often.

Somewhere-by-the-river



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 13 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I'd go with sending a sample (copy of images, not originals) then a follow-up email/call. Most card producers start looking for Christmas images in January, so now is probably not a bad idea with a view to Christmas 2014. As for licensing, I'm not sure how such a big charity would work (some would expect you to donate images, rather than have to pay), but most places that do pay for images would give you a nominal payment with an agreement to allow them to use the images for a set number of years (for as many runs as they wanted within that time). They do, however, get approached by a lot of artists - it's worth a go (great images), but they might not get back to you.

Just as an extra point of interest... have you seen this (as a potential outlet)? https://www.downtoearthgift.co.uk/

earthyvirgo



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 13 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Somewhere-by-the-river wrote:
I'd go with sending a sample (copy of images, not originals) then a follow-up email/call. Most card producers start looking for Christmas images in January, so now is probably not a bad idea with a view to Christmas 2014. As for licensing, I'm not sure how such a big charity would work (some would expect you to donate images, rather than have to pay), but most places that do pay for images would give you a nominal payment with an agreement to allow them to use the images for a set number of years (for as many runs as they wanted within that time). They do, however, get approached by a lot of artists - it's worth a go (great images), but they might not get back to you.

Just as an extra point of interest... have you seen this (as a potential outlet)? https://www.downtoearthgift.co.uk/


I've worked with the RSPB years ago when I was an illustrator rather than an artist and that was on a commission basis. I do know someone who works there (the chap Vegplot mentioned), so it's not quite a cold call.

As soon as I get time and courage (haven't spoken to him for a while), I'll get in touch and ask a few questions.

Yes, I've bought cards from Down to Earth - it's a pretty chocca-block market at the moment, with lots of very similar work ...which is one of the reasons I'm biding my time a bit and doing a lot of background research before landing my images on anyone's desk.

EV

EV

mousjoos



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 13 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Avocet of my prints at half price.......

powerjen



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 13 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I second what some others have said, email isn't a great way to attract attention, I'd ring them and if you can't speak to the purchasing dept directly, ask who there you can send samples to and wait to see what they say. Give them a couple of weeks and if you hear nothing give them a friendly call to see what they thought. I'd assume they would be starting work on 2014's stuff now so it's a good time to contact them.

Good luck!

Jen

gregotyn



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 13 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I would be more inclined to ask them when you can go along and show them what you can do. These people are in buisness, so they will want it for next to nought!

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