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Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 14 1:52 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

Chez wrote:
The 'skeptical review' that Treacodactyl refs is by someone who's never used one, which seems a bit pony.


Not really, many other reviews carry similar points and many apply to most wood/twig stoves. For example, even in wet Devon, there are times I'm not keen to have a fire of any sort in my woodland, just too risky.

WW, Biolite suggest wood pellets/chips rather than charcoal.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 14 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Surely that's a criticism of where they're used rather than how they work? I assumed WW meant for use on a campsite not in a woodland.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 14 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Not all campsites allow open fires and if you're not on a campsite it's not always wise to have an open fire (simple common sense). I don't know what the biolite would be classed as but it's something to think about.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 14 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I think it looks fun to use - we're after alternatives to the camper and I've been spoiled by the rocket stove. I'd definitely consider one, so if you go for it, let us know!

sean
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 14 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I think I'd sack the electricity generating capacity and get a Kelly Kettle with a cookset and stove adapter.
http://www.kellykettle.com/
A lot less to go wrong and I'd guess more stable if you use the bottom with the grill/stove adapter.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 14 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

It will be a mixture of campsites and private land. We don't generally go to campsites that don't allow fires (although they usually specify contained fires, which I think shouldn't be a problem) On private land we use fire pits with appropriate safety precautions. I think we have to assume that any camping stove is going to carry some fire risk, however fuelled!

So no one has any actual experience of them? I don't think the kelly kettle will quite fit the bill. Solo stoves look ok, but I do like the grill bit, too. I'm not really bothered about gadget charging (although why not? - can't be any less reliable than solar in the uk!) I like the mini, efficient, fast fire element. A bit of woodsmoke makes a camp meal, I reckon.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 14 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

And in a time-travelling situation, you would be able to charge your smart-phone.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 14 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

You certainly would. Although you wouldn't be able to call anyone!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 14 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

no experience of that stove - sorry - though it does look interesting.

We get by quite will with a mini bucket bbq - if you use proper charcoal - the stuff that resembles wood rather than brickettes - it does get up to temperature pretty fast. [url=https://flic.kr/p/bXY7au][/url]
We bbq on it, but also fry, and heat up the Italian coffee maker thing. Just a suggestion. Not as fast as a cannister-fueled stove though, but a lot cheaper

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 14 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

sean wrote:
I think I'd sack the electricity generating capacity and get a Kelly Kettle with a cookset and stove adapter.
http://www.kellykettle.com/
A lot less to go wrong and I'd guess more stable if you use the bottom with the grill/stove adapter.


Just what I was going to say

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 14 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

dpack wrote:


if you are going off grid for months i recon a mini steam engine and dynamo soe style is reliable kit.


I was gonna ask what's that then ? Then I found one (2nd item down)
I had an idea about getting a steam engine -partly because it would be a cool thing to own, but also cos it could generate heat and electric. Quick research revealed steam engines are pants for elec generation as they can't rev on demand. Apparently wood gasification and a combustion engine is the way to get electric from wood.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 14 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I've used both rocket stoves and woodgas stoves. I pack the woodgas stove on the bike when I go off camping. It's really efficient once you get it going and packs down really small.
However the rocket stove is probably more versatile if you have the space.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 14 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

We have a Kelly Kettle.
Brilliant for hot drinks,soup,beans etc.

Also good for using up collected twigs etc.
Boils water in a couple of minutes.

sean
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 14 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

This looks quite funky. And folds flat which could be good with limited boot space.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 14 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

When we are at shows we often use a storm kettle as we have plenty of wood shavings etc. and although we take water in flasks, we like to have the wherewithal to brew up. Put the storm kettle on a scrap bit of wood though or it scorches the grass.

If you use British charcoal it should light easily and be ready for use in 20 minutes or less.

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