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joanne

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Morecambe, Lancashire

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 14 2:11 pm Post subject: Pear identification
Does anyone know what variety of pear these might be? They are tiny but the tree is laden although they are still not ready I want them to use for chutneys, perry and jam

LynneA

Joined: 25 Oct 2006
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Location: London N21

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 14 6:25 pm Post subject:
A perry variety?

Green Rosie

Joined: 13 May 2007
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Location: Calvados, France

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 14 6:56 pm Post subject:
I was going to say a perry variety - like this tree I saw on my walk today

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 14 6:29 am Post subject:
It could also be an old type. We had one at the end of our garden, but the neighbours between them seem to have done for it. It was very tall and had quite small fruit that I used for cooking.

joanne

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Morecambe, Lancashire

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 14 7:15 am Post subject:
I thought it might be a perry variety as well - that's great news because that's what it's mainly going to be used for anyway It is very old, the property is listed and the size of the tree means it must be atleast 100 years old if not more

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 14 8:33 am Post subject:
We've got a very similar looking pear, label's come off though. We harvested on Staurday, v clean and refreshing taste, v juicy. If I manage to work out what it was I'll let you know

Luath

Joined: 03 Dec 2009
Posts: 761

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 14 9:23 am Post subject:
Could be Black Worcester; an old cooking variety.

joanne

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Morecambe, Lancashire

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 14 9:51 am Post subject:

Oooh Luath, I think you might be onto something there. It's definitely similar and definitely a very old variety, more than likely pre-Victorian

Does anyone have an email contact for OrangePippin? I wonder if he knows somebody who could identify it properly for us especially if it is a rare heritage variety

There are quite a few apple trees as well in the grounds of the house although I think they are quite a bit younger

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 14 9:53 am Post subject:
OP and his chums are pretty much apple obsessives, I'll skype him and see if he knows anyone

mochyn

Joined: 21 Dec 2004
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Location: mid-Wales

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 14 10:02 am Post subject:
I was looking at a tree of Black Worcesters yesterday and the fruit was much bigger than those, Jo.

joanne

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 7100
Location: Morecambe, Lancashire

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 14 10:03 am Post subject:

I've contacted the Northern Fruit Group and the Heritage Pear project at the Orchard Revival website.

There are some apple varieties in the grounds of the house as well as, although I think they may be later but again we've no idea what variety they might be. One's definitely an eater and I think the others are cookers but again we aren't sure what they are.

Thanks Tahir - any help would be great especially if it is a 'lost' variety it needs preserving there is also a conference type and two williams type pears

joanne

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Morecambe, Lancashire

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 14 10:05 am Post subject:

mochyn wrote:

I was looking at a tree of Black Worcesters yesterday and the fruit was much bigger than those, Jo.

I wonder if they are a relative though, especially as the house is from the 1700's or earlier I think. Christian's sister and her partner renovated it from almost rubble, these are the apple and pears that they managed to save, the gardens were completely overgrown and there were many more fruit trees but alot had to be removed as they were full of disease.

Lorrainelovesplants

Joined: 13 Oct 2006
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Location: Dordogne

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 14 10:38 am Post subject:
Its a perry pear - we also have a massive tree with wooden pears. If you pick them and put by a fruitbowl for a week they soften up, but are never truly nice to eat.

Luath

Joined: 03 Dec 2009
Posts: 761

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 14 11:13 am Post subject:

mochyn wrote:

I was looking at a tree of Black Worcesters yesterday and the fruit was much bigger than those, Jo.

Fruits will diminish in size over a long life time of a fruit tree.

Definitely not medlars, btw.

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 14 11:37 am Post subject:
Jo are they all the same shape (round with a little point?), they are v similar to ours, and we don't have any perry pears. Either way it's going to be a pre 19th C pear as by then they were much bigger and different shapes

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