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sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
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Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 15 10:56 am Post subject:
I like the sound of your Chilli Achar, Tahir. I'll be giving that a go.

otatop

Joined: 01 Jun 2005
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Location: North London

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 15 12:44 pm Post subject:

Thanks all. I lost the recipe for a great chilli pickle that I made a couple of years ago and was going to try to re-create it from memory, but Tahir's is very similar - so I'll follow that. I bought some mustard oil yesterday (small print on label said 'external use only' but I think they have to say that in order to export). I was thinking of using it 1 part to 4 with veg oil.

Interestingly, they were cooking with mustard oil on The Food Programme this week and didn't seem to be at all worried - although dripping won the taste trial.

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 15 12:50 pm Post subject:

otatop wrote:

I bought some mustard oil yesterday (small print on label said 'external use only' but I think they have to say that in order to export). I was thinking of using it 1 part to 4 with veg oil.

I was amazed when I first found out, as my mum had always used it. There's plenty of research that say's it's unsafe so I wouldn't use it, just (very) lightly toast and crush the mustard seeds that you use in the pickle and you'll get all the flavour with (I assume) no risk to your health.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Hereford

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 15 1:14 pm Post subject:

tahir wrote:

otatop wrote:

I bought some mustard oil yesterday (small print on label said 'external use only' but I think they have to say that in order to export). I was thinking of using it 1 part to 4 with veg oil.

Really?

https://www.schwartz.co.uk/products/herbs-and-spices/spices/mustard-seed These?

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45421
Location: Essex

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 15 1:23 pm Post subject:

Nick wrote:

Really?

https://www.schwartz.co.uk/products/herbs-and-spices/spices/mustard-seed These?

Really what? As far as I know mustard seeds are safe, it's something to do with the way the oil is extracted that makes the oil risky.

It was a few years ago but there was plenty of stuff out there about it, and even though all ethnic shops sell mustard seed oil next to all the other veg oils it is labelled "not for internal consumption" or similar.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Hereford

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 15 1:34 pm Post subject:
Oh. Didn't know that.

Pilsbury

Joined: 13 Dec 2004
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Location: East london/Essex

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 15 5:47 pm Post subject:
Tahir, I your recipe post you have 'mustard seeds (not reccomended) ' I think you ment mustard oil, it would make more sense

otatop

Joined: 01 Jun 2005
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Location: North London

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 15 6:00 pm Post subject:
I'm inclined to think that, in moderation, mustard oil is ok. It's so strongly flavoured that you wouldn't want to use too much anyway. And after all, not so very long ago we were told that animal fats were the food of the devil, and that we should all be eating odd 'spreads' with iffy ingredients. Butter and/or dripping for me every time!

otatop

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Location: North London

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 15 6:12 pm Post subject:
Incidentally, did anyone listen to The Food Programme? About oils and fats. Very interesting.

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 15 6:38 pm Post subject:

otatop wrote:

I'm inclined to think that, in moderation, mustard oil is ok. It's so strongly flavoured that you wouldn't want to use too much anyway. And after all, not so very long ago we were told that animal fats were the food of the devil, and that we should all be eating odd 'spreads' with iffy ingredients.
Butter and/or dripping for me every time!

I'm with you all the way, we don't do artificial sweeteners or low aft anything but trust me, there's a reason why they have to mark mustard seed oil as "not for human consumption"

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 15 6:41 pm Post subject:
Although I can't find anything now that says so, and I'm sure I've eaten plenty of it in my life... However as explained above the flavour can be replaced by toasted crushed mustard seed so why take the risk?

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 15 7:20 pm Post subject:
https://www.spicesofindia.co.uk/acatalog/Mustard-Oil-Statement.html is probably the issue.

Guest

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 15 11:37 am Post subject:

Thanks to my Indian friend , I have a simple but amazing recipe for Chilli Pickle:

Ingredients:
Green chilli 200 gms
Lemon juice 1/2 cup
Red chilli powder 1 tsp
Fenugreek seeds 1/2 tbsp
Mustard seeds 1/2 tbsp
Turmeric powder 1 tsp
Cumin powder (roasted) 2 tsp
Mustard oil 3 tbsp
Salt to taste

How to make Chilli Pickle:
1) Make a smooth mixture of ground fenugreek and mustard seeds with turmeric powder, red chilli powder, cumin powder and salt.
2) Soak the sliced chillies into lemon juice for an hour.
3) Add the powdered mixture of spices in warm oil, pour them onto the green chillies and stir well.
4) Store the chilli pickle in a glass bottle.

hope It will be helpful for all.

Piggyphile

Joined: 02 Apr 2009
Posts: 891
Location: Galicia

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 15 4:42 pm Post subject:

tahir wrote:

Chilli Achar

None of the recipes I can find online are like my mum's, unfortunately she's dead so I can't check with her but this is what I remember:

Chillies
Salt (plenty of)
Fennel Seed
Mustard Seed
cumin seed

Throw the chillies into a jar with the salt, enough to see that all the chillies have visible salt on them. After a few days of occasional shaking (vigorous) the salt will have extracted quite a lot of water at the bottom of the jar, pour this away. Leave for another couple of days to ensure all water is removed, drain thoroughly in a colander (maybe leave draining for a couple of hours).

Put back into a clean, dry jar with the spices (above is a basic mix, you can add all sorts of stuff) shake vigorously every few hours for a day or so and then cover with a veg oil.

I am having a go at this except that I have roughly chopped the Aji chillies as they are quite big. I am getting lots of water off and I am wondering if I should rinse off the excess salt before draining and drying? If I leave them as they are will they be too salty? thanks

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45421
Location: Essex

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 15 4:47 pm Post subject:
It needs to be quite salty, try some. If you do rinse you must dry properly before adding oil. Remember most of the salt will be in the brine.

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