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dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 16 10:59 am Post subject:
that looks like a good offer for somebody, if the economics can be made to add up it seems almost too good to be true. i,m probably a bit old to take on such a long term project but if i had a few decades less i would be phoning them now.

NorthernMonkeyGirl

Joined: 10 Apr 2011
Posts: 4627
Location: Peeping over your shoulder

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 16 11:16 am Post subject:
Given that their last opportunity for "new entrants" went to a middle aged white man with an established farm business.... I wish the future tenants good luck.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 16 11:24 am Post subject:

NorthernMonkeyGirl wrote:

Given that their last opportunity for "new entrants" went to a middle aged white man with an established farm business....

I wish the future tenants good luck.

Do we know who else applied?

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 6612
Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 16 12:12 pm Post subject:
Presumably they don't want someone that will be doing a lot of tillage, as the purpose is to stop flooding, not accentuate it. But they don't want a grazer.... What the hell do they want? A christmas tree farm?

NorthernMonkeyGirl

Joined: 10 Apr 2011
Posts: 4627
Location: Peeping over your shoulder

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 16 12:20 pm Post subject:

Nick wrote:

NorthernMonkeyGirl wrote:

Given that their last opportunity for "new entrants" went to a middle aged white man with an established farm business....

I wish the future tenants good luck.

Do we know who else applied?

It would be interesting to see; but their requirements were pretty strict.
Let me say, I've no problem with the chap who got in and will do a great job; my problem is the way it was all advertised (and I'm still p****d off about the charge to get the paperwork with all the demands on it - that should be upfront.)

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 4612
Location: Lampeter

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 16 5:57 pm Post subject:

Slim wrote:

Presumably they don't want someone that will be doing a lot of tillage, as the purpose is to stop flooding, not accentuate it. But they don't want a grazer.... What the hell do they want? A christmas tree farm?

A George Monbiot lookalike,lol.

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 6612
Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 16 6:04 pm Post subject:

Ty Gwyn wrote:

Slim wrote:

A George Monbiot lookalike,lol.

I don't know enough about him to know what that means. Googling him turns up a lot of articles.... willing to give me a TL;DR? (too long; didn't read)

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 15425
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 16 6:23 pm Post subject:

Slim wrote:

Ty Gwyn wrote:

Slim wrote:

A George Monbiot lookalike,lol.

I don't know enough about him to know what that means. Googling him turns up a lot of articles.... willing to give me a TL;DR? (too long; didn't read)

Bit of a hippy-dippy type. Makes a certain amount of sense much of the time, but tends to be "greener than thou..."

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 16 6:39 pm Post subject:
He thinks Bono is an idiot. It's a very simple litmus test, but it's a massive positive for me.

Treacodactyl
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 25795
Location: Jumping on the bandwagon of opportunism

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 16 6:53 pm Post subject:

Slim wrote:

Ty Gwyn wrote:

Slim wrote:

A George Monbiot lookalike,lol.

I don't know enough about him to know what that means. Googling him turns up a lot of articles.... willing to give me a TL;DR? (too long; didn't read)

He's an advocate of rewilding, the reintroduction of animals like Lynx and Bears into the UK. Something I agree with but we might disagree on the exact location (he says hilltops, I say shopping centers).

On a serious note, letting less productive farmland go back to nature. Less grazing more trees, shrubs, and free-range eco-warriors.

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 6612
Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 16 10:17 pm Post subject:
Maybe he could be talked into silvipasturing meat critters with carefully monitored predator levels that are allowed to snag domestic prey once in a while?

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 15950

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 16 8:55 am Post subject:
Can't think why they don't want grazing as that seems the obvious use. Water meadows were traditionally used to bring the grass on earlier for feeding cattle, so why want wet meadows and no grazing?

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 15425
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 16 2:48 pm Post subject:

Mistress Rose wrote:

Can't think why they don't want grazing as that seems the obvious use. Water meadows were traditionally used to bring the grass on earlier for feeding cattle, so why want wet meadows and no grazing?

I think they think that grazing land does not hold the water well to reduce flood risk lower down...

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46192
Location: yes

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 16 3:09 pm Post subject:
water meadow requires grazing otherwise either mowing turns it into lawn or it turns into scrub. neither of which hold much water. beavers and wetland trees could perhaps be a good flood management tactic but a water meadow with a building soil is also pretty good at holding water

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 15950

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 16 7:18 am Post subject:
My feelings too Dpack. Traditionally waterside meadows were open as they were so valuable for grazing. Letting or encouraging the water to flood into them during the winter gives a wider flood plain and slows water run off, and as you say, needs grazing in the summer.

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