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Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 17 3:57 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

Slim wrote:
When y'all say sticky tape, is that the same thing that we would call Scotch tape, or "invisible tape"?


Ah, "sticky tape" covers all manner of things. I'd taken it to mean sellotape (tm?) or similar.
Scotch tape is something slightly different.

NorthernMonkeyGirl



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 17 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Yes, sellotape. Old enough to be a bit less sticky but still quite sticky.

sean
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 17 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Sellotape degrades on it's own given time so you should be fine I think.
@HL I *think* that Scotch tape in the US is pretty much like Sellotape here in that it's the same sort of stuff just a different brand name has become generic IYSWIM.

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 17 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Yes, they are both trade names. I was once confused by a special tape we used at work made by the Minnesota Mining and Mineral Company. Turned out we usually call it 3M.

Slim



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 17 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I thought the old "Scotch = cheap" joke was transAtlantic anyway, isn't it? (that's where the name for the tape came from)

My grandfather always called people watching "Scotch movies"

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 17 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Yes, we can get Scotch tape too, but the most popular brand, and therefore the name most often used in the UK is Sellotape.

NorthernMonkeyGirl



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 17 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Some of the "ehhh, worth a go" grafts have dried up already, the others still look suspiciously green.
Also someone was being "helpful" and cleared away the pot of cuttings. Oh well! Plenty of source material.

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 17 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I got some parafilm tape today...

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 18 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

DOWNSIZER BINGO



it still didn’t find me a decent source of a roll or two of parafilm grafting tape

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 18 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

NorthernMonkeyGirl wrote:
Ye olde RHS book said "midsummer" so I'm not stupidly far off, especially given weather.

Thanks for the reminder: I'd got my head stuck in the idea that it was a spring thing.
Maybe that's apples?

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 18 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

as far as i can gather different techniques are suitable at different times of year and there is something for most of the time which does mean if you have rootstocks readily available ( ha ha ha ha ) a few bits of a donor can be collected at any time

now about a uk source of genuine parafilm grafting tape.....

NorthernMonkeyGirl



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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 18 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

My experiments failed delightfully

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 18 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

NMG, is a 'delightful' failure a better failure than a 'complete' one?

gregotyn



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 18 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

If at first you don't etc.-give it another try!

buzzy



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 18 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

sean wrote:
Sellotape degrades on it's own given time so you should be fine I think.
@HL I *think* that Scotch tape in the US is pretty much like Sellotape here in that it's the same sort of stuff just a different brand name has become generic IYSWIM.


Depends on the conditions. Sometimes Sellotape just goes very hard. The adhesive degrades and does horrible things to paper.

Henry

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