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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 17 6:05 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

Turns out I was wrong about the author - he nominated himself but the Vice President stepped up to the role, so that at least is not a problem.

I had a text message this morning from the Hospital reminding me of an appointment they had not yet told me about. A quick phonecall cleared things up and the letter arrived two hours later. It's on Thursday morning which is a real pest as I have to go to Hobart on Friday to hand in the phone for the Uni Study. I am presently trying to reschedule that for Thursday afternoon so I can make only one trip. I suppose I could stay at Barb's if not, but that would mean putting the dog in kennels again, sigh. And I have another trip down on Sunday for the demonstration spinning at the Brighton Show, so it's all action here.

I plied off the last of the dark brown wool and have made some progress on the light brown, and washing some mid-brown for future use (on Sunday as we will be there for around 8 hours so you get through a surprising amount of wool). And Facebook Memories reminded me that today I took out one of my early woolly worms and turned it into some 12 ply yarn. The current lot is more like 4 ply once plied, so progress has been made.

Tomorrow the weather will pick up again and turn to be 18 degrees which will mean the fact I am burning my last large log is not as alarming as it might otherwise be. I will nevertheless pick up another sack en route to town for the 'in case' turns of bad weather that put in an appearance around Christmas. And then I will dig out the chainsaw and cut up a railway sleeper or two.

Mistress Rose

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 17 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Hope you can re-schedule your phone hand in Cassandra. As you say, it seems to be all go at the moment for you. Looking at the pictures of your spinning, you have come on very well.

I went up to the woods yesterday, taking the car in the far end as the other van hasn't yet been fixed. Got to the gate and there was a large tractor and forwarder full of logs in the way. He pulled out a bit for me so I managed to get in, and once we had both established we had a right to be there (in his case he had a key rather than driving the tractor straight through the gate), all was well. Took lunch through, and son helped me with some log bagging while husband was trying to take a bit of tractor apart.

Met two other woodland owners on the way out and had a chat with them. It was a lovely day, with the beech leaves putting on a golden colour for us, so pleasant to be in the woods.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 17 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

There is a lot I have read and can't remember-seems an age since I was here! We seem to be in a cool and wet period, although Saturday at the barn was ok. We think we may have to leave the next tree stump as it is very tangled with a wall and trying to cut it out with a chainsaw and not damage the blade was almost impossible so I think he will wait till the digger arrives and see if he can do it without too much damage to the stones and the area-it is in a wall line and plan A is to try to rebuild the wall once the stump has gone. Doubtless plan B will come into play-sit down and think again.

Thank you MR for the advice on the chute size. I have made a chute before for kindling nets and it took a lot of manoeuvring around to get it right for the net, in depth terms, but that for the logs will no doubt be more of a challenge as the sizes vary so much. The plan is to start with your size and hope! I have a lot of the said plastic, but the faster I get it made the better. I will be starting with your sizes as I think they will do me. If some are too long then I will either cut them down or sell some loose as a trailer load-already got a pub interested for 2 loads.
The point I was making about the bracken, MR was that there was a potential cash crop for you to sell on, but you would have had to bale it. I see its value when slash cut as a donation to the fertilizer status but it won't be much, better than nothing, and it will give some frost protection. We have had 2 frosts already, and the roads have been gritted.

Got the big birthday tomorrow which they have got wind of at work, so I am not looking forward to it, I have passed the silly b.. antics stage that seem acceptable today or even expected. I won't be cooperating at all with stupidity-never did and don't plan on changing my mind now. I have to go to the doctor's tomorrow for copd testing, which I don't know what it is, breathing I think, but the appointment will be before I normally finish work, so I will be going early. I just want an ordinary day.

I have to go to the post office for a new driving license today. I don't know if I told you the wallet saga, but I lost a wallet a few months ago between Tesco and Sainsbury in Welshpool and couldn't find it anywhere. So new cards etc. Now how is this for a shock-I am in the woodshed on Saturday to cut wood and as usual I start to move things so that I can get to the saw and there on the floor is the wallet in tact and complete with £60 inside, driving license, bank cards and other "stuff". I am going to the post office to renew as it appears to be a simple process if the forms are in order. Most costly way of doing it-£21.50, but instant..... they say! We will see.

That would be interesting if the post office would pick up our donations to the food bank-may be worth talking to our local posties and see if any would be willing. I find it strange that so many folks have this money in tax havens where, if they paid UK taxes we would all be getting a fair crack of the whip, the 'withouts' would be getting more food in the banks too and they would not necessarily be needing so much in hand outs as they would be getting better payments in social security due to more tax collected. How some of the lols-little old ladies-with poor basic pensions manage, I don't know. There are donation bins in the supermarkets here in the UK, which appear to do ok.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 17 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Does sound as if you are going to have trouble with the next stump Gregotyn. You couldn't use and old axe to get through the roots; one that wouldn't matter if the blade got a bit damaged? Or take that part of the wall down and remove stump then rebuild wall?

Happy Birthday, and hope you have a nice sensible celebration. If it is the birthday I think, then you will have to get a new driving licence anyway and will need it instantly.

Great that you found your wallet again, and all intact. You can at least destroy all the cards now, as you will have had them replaced anyway, and nice to have the £60 back.

It has been a bit nippy here at times, but yesterday it rained. Husband and son managed to get some work done in the morning, but came home lunch time and gave up. Son went home to do some leather work. I had to stay home as I made an error with the bread making machine so the bread was ready in the middle of the day rather than the morning. We had a slice of good solid fruit cake at lunch time instead, which is probably rather more nutritious.

It would be nice if the postman picked up things for the food bank Gregotyn, but round here they are so pushed for time and space in their pouches I don't think it is really practical. Perhaps in rural areas, but the supermarket pick up points seem to do us pretty well.

Husband and son have 70 log nets to deliver today, so I will be busy refilling as we have another order for 50 within a couple of weeks and only have 24 spare at the moment.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 17 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

The next stump goes under a building wall as well as the field boundary wall, so digging it out with a digger is possible but taking down the one wall is not a starter-we think we will remove as much as possible then poison the rest and hope what is on top doesn't fall down. Luckily I don't have to make the decisions!

Thankyou MR it was a happy birthday. My birthday was to be spent with my neighbours going to a pub for a meal but she thought it was today not yesterday-my fault-I thought the same till I got excited and looked on the calendar, so we are going out tonight. She cooked a meal yesterday. They are a great young couple, whose 2 horses graze my spare grass. Both horses are sensible and quiet, don't escape and are sociable towards me, so maximum points there. I am having further celebrations over the weekend at my friends' in Bridgnorth; their children and grand children will also be there-9 in all, 10 with me.

Only one more frost this week so far and roads salted so ok. The thing about the wallet is why couldn't I find it when I went to pay in Sainsbury's, when I had used the wallet in Tesco's only a few minutes earlier; and how did it get into the workshop and in tact? I guess we will never know! The £60 was a bonus as was finding the driving license.

Of necessity our postmen drive round here, several houses are down long drives, and walking would not be an option timewise really. One of my farmer friends is half a mile from the public road. I am on the side of the road so they can do me and 4 others at one parking then a quarter of a mile up the hill to 3 more and a mile up that lane to the man at the end.

120 nets is a lot of wood and work MR. I don't envy you doing that lot, but I will be at it next weekend after this one, ready for the, hopefully, December rush. Can Husband get all 70 nets on the pickup in one go, or do they have a trailer to take some as well?
Our leaves have nearly all gone from the trees now at the top of the hill with just a few hangers on, and about 50% on the low ground still to carpet the area.

I hope all is well with Cassandra, I'm not too sure what is happening, or when for her. I just hope that the hospital gets the diagnosis done quickly and all is well, and with any action needed done quickly.

Speak to you all next week.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 17 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I didn't understand the stump was under a building wall. That is going to cause trouble as it rots no doubt, but as you say, not your problem. Sounds as if you are making the most of the birthday celebrations, so have a good time. I thought your postmen probably had to drive. The one who delivers to us has a van and does a number of houses at a time, then moves it on, as we are a long road with houses only one side and some with moderate drive, although not as long as round your way. Most of the estate delivering postmen get brought out in a van with their post and do the work on foot.

The log sacks went to 2 different customers. The 20 to one can easily go in the back of the van, but the 50 are spread between the van and a trailer. I did a few more yesterday, but didn't have much cut wood, so only did half a dozen, then made a couple of besom heads as I have an order for 2 more, and dug out some sawdust to go to the farm shop to smoke bacon. Not a lot, but a mildly productive day. Husband and son did log loads, so we got something done.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 17 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

The garden club's annual luncheon is in early December. The November newsletter has suggestions of what to bring for donations to A Woman's Place, which will be delivered directly after the lunchein.

Gift Certificates/Gift Cards: Supermarket, K-Mart, Sears, Target, Walmart, drug store, gas cards, movie theatre
Household Products: Laundry and dish soap, fabric softener, trash bags, household cleaners, toilet paper, paper towels, tissues, brooms, mops, light bulbs, 30 gallon clear storage tubs with lids
Personal Products: Hair and skin products, feminine hygiene products, hand sanitizer, razors, deodorant, full size shampoo, full size conditioner, full size body wash, baby wipes, diapers (sizes 4, 5and 6), baby powder, baby wash/shampoo
New Linens: New pillows
Medications/Health: Cold/flu/allergy medications, Tylenol, Advil, antacids, vitamins, children’s medications, children’s ear thermometers
Foods: Juice boxes, school snacks, canned goods, fresh produce
Clothing: Larger women’s clothing, new women’s sweat suits, underwear, socks, pajamas (all sizes), clothing (all sizes), children’s underwear
Special Needs: Bus tokens, batteries, irons, small alarm clocks, fans
Children’s Program Needs: Crayons, markers, coloring books
*If you would like to participate in this please bring your gift either wrapped in clear cellophane, or wrapped with a bow, or unwrapped so that the people at Woman's Place can tell what it is without unwrapping it.

Mistress Rose

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 17 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I assume that is a women's refuge Jam Lady. Nice ideas for donations. We can't give out medications at the Food Bank, but all the other stuff apart from tokens would be very well received by us too. The diapers sizes are the very ones we get asked for and are less likely to have too. I suppose being larger they are more expensive and also that people are less likely to think about what happens when the baby gets a bit bigger.

Must say that the old square terry nappies (diapers) had a lot going for them as they grew with the baby, and there wasn't the trouble about what size. The disposable ones were just coming in when my son was a baby and weren't much good, so the terry ones with plastic pants over the top were far better.

Husband and son went to a Classic tractor fair on Saturday, which involved a lot of travelling, so we had a quiet day yesterday. Think son and DIL were at the Remembrance Day parade in their town with the Brownies; son either pushes DIL in wheel chair or acts as sheep dog to the Brownies to keep them together if DIL uses her buggy. Fine but cold, so at least they didn't get wet this year.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 17 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I didn't realise the food bank did baby clothes as well as food, JL, MR. Seems a good idea, as many of the withouts would appreciate nappies and the like I am sure. It seems wrong that there are so many people with nothing to their name. I hope we get something better with coming out of the EEC-oops EU. I am knocking on, now so whatever happens with the EU exit won't have a massive effect on me. But I expect there are those who will be affected and some not necessarily for the better.

I have been to my friends' at Bridgnorth for my birthday celebrations, all successful, until I came from there at 4am to go to straight to work. I was going down the stairs in the dark with an armful of clothes and managed to catch a picture, knock it off the wall and the thing smashed all the photos are still intact and not damaged, but I spent some time picking up the glass off the floor on the stairs as well. I had to do it as the dog doesn't have shoes like me. Anyway I got out and went to work, frosty roads for the first 8 miles of lanes, so a bit slow, but then I got on the main A road and the traffic was moving well even at 5 am there were a lot of cars-I expected more lorries-so I was in a 50 miles per hour queue, but that was ok.

I would have enjoyed the classic tractor fair MR. I have a Massey 35X which my neighbour is going to do up in the summer he threatens. I guess he will want me to give it to him when I go into serious decline! I have seen nothing of Remembrance Sunday except what was shown on the news. I normally watch from start to finish-an addiction to bands and bagpipes helps too!

Talking about nappies MR, I think it was shown that washable nappies worked out cheaper than disposables, taking into account the washing costs of the reusable ones and the disposal costs of the throwaway ones it was said to be much cheaper, especially if you have another child! Though how many washings they take I don't know, but my nappies were first used by my brother! There are enough jokes about nappies not to repeat any here!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 17 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Our food bank has disposable nappies as those are the ones usually used these days Gregotyn. I don't think anyone uses the old square terry ones these days, although I agree they are better in many ways, including costing a lot less overall.

Glad, apart from the mishap, that you had a good birthday weekend. We have 2 in this month now; husband that was the previous weekend, and DIL who is next one. I have to find a present for her when I go shopping.

Husband and son enjoyed the tractor fair, and I think they had several different varieties there. They went particularly for the Leyland-Marshall, but I know there were other ones such as Fergy and probably Massey.

We have been clearing out a section of felled trees along the edge of the pylon line the last couple of days. Unfortunately there are layers of timber separated by layers of brash, so son has been bringing the little tractor and forwarder in to remove the timber then we have been getting the brash out and separating it into charcoal wood and burning up the tops. He has a bit of a pile stacked trackside now to take up to the stacking area with the big forwarder, which can't get into the felled bit. I finished the day yesterday by doing a few more log sacks, so my work will be mainly that and brash burning for the foreseeable future.

Have a couple of besoms to take to one of our outlets today, as they sold the 2 they had, so another small earner. Nice to have a range of things on the go, and hopefully ones other than firewood will develop.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 17 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

There is no question MR, that having more than 1 string to the bow is worth having. Whereas I see firewood as a main income for me after my paid working time is over of 5-6 hours daily, I am always looking for other additional products for selling. I have, this coming season, to do a few car boot sales at the start of the spring, primarily to rid myself of my gross excess of goods never to have been, or to be used, but bought 'in case' or 'it will come in' but doesn't-I doubt if you have such stuff, but I collect a lot of stuff and never going to use it. Downsizing has to be the next project. I am planning to retire from work soon. I am starting to get annoyed with always being wrong. And having had a couple of items taken I am not happy. Someone has taken my pallet demolisher and a work supplied coat. Annoying to say the least. I will miss the money, but job satisfaction is more important at my stage of life. And I am no longer enjoying my work as I did. I think they take things knowing that I am forgetful. I can't cope with theft from workmates I would give them whatever it is rather than have it stolen.

One more day and the weekend starts. I just wish the firewood seller would hurry up and get my nets still not bought any. I am waiting for the day when I run out of the current 'netted' stocks, and he has no wood to sell in the shop-this could concentrate his mind. The 3rd/4th week in January is the cut off point for my current stock then nought to pack 'em in, so nought to sell! I may look for another outlet when I retire, to the point I may start selling from my gate.

I don't remember the whole story of Harry Ferguson and Massey and later the Massey-Ferguson. What I can tell you is that Harry Ferguson was an exceptional engineer and inventor of engineering products, mainly for tractors, amongst which was the 3 point linkage. It was a mixed blessing in the first instances as it was attached to the engine running, but deactivated when the clutch was engaged. I once had to take pig food from one farm to the other. The sacks were too heavy for me to lift so the link box was on the ground. I lifted up the full link box and engaged clutch, the link box descended to the ground quickly. I got it worked out eventually but what a job. Once they could get the hydraulics separated from the clutch system, and to the engine drive direct it was sorted and you picked up the load independently of the clutch. This started the rest of the tractor makers having to follow suit.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 17 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

We do have rather a lot of stuff, but it is things that I inherited, things that we have used in the past and don't now and that sort of thing. Like everyone, I have made some purchases that proved to be useless, but luckily not too many. Have never been one for rash buying, so tend to be a sellers nightmare.

Doesn't sound as if the people you are currently working with are very nice. If you can afford to do so, it might be a good idea to retire and just do firewood and odd jobs. At the very least they should respect their elders. I suspect if you retire they will find out just how much you do and how much they rely on you. Still, do them good to do the extra work by the sounds of it.

I didn't know that about the 3 point linkage, but just told husband and he says he knew it. He never used one until relatively recently though, so you have the advantage of experience from the beginning there. When did they first come in? It is amazing the things we take for granted these days, like chainsaws, that are really very recent. I think the first chainsaws didn't come in until about the 1960s, and they were so heavy they were a very mixed blessing. I have an idea I remember before combine harvesters, but not too sure, as it wasn't an everyday thing to me. We lived on the edge of country, but my father wasn't working on the land, so it was a thing I 'saw' rather than something I lived with.

Had a busy day yesterday. Filled some more log nets, so now have the next order ready to go; 50 nets again. Have to keep going though, as we may well get another order for 50 in a few weeks, and I want to have 100 ready to go before Christmas just in case. That is as well as the probable 10s and 20s that might come in. Yesterday evening gave a talk to a Horticultural Society on 'What makes a woodland?' which went very well. Nobody went to sleep that I could see, I managed their headset microphone, and several people said they had enjoyed it. Absolutely exhuasted afterwards though. Still, just food bank today, so just a frantic couple of hours in the middle of the day. We are two people short, but should be all right, although a bit slower I suspect.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 17 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I am as I said a hoarder, and am currently living in corridors, as all my rooms are rather full of stuff, I will get there sometime. As soon as I retire I will have to think a bit as to how to rearrange my stuff to make it into order of some sort. I get worried about throwing stuff in case it comes in for somebody besides me. Basically my house is stuffed!

The people I am working with are not of an age yet, where they have to tolerate folks of my age group, both their fathers are about 10 years less than me, so I qualify as an old git to them. I only work because I want the money and the company. I have friends, but they are some distance away. And with my lack of skill with the telephones as all others are today, I am not very communicative-email suits me fine quick and easy. I can also correct my mistakes with email, before changing feet! If I retire they will take on a junior boy to replace me. They have had a few of them before me but found them too unreliable. The current stores manager is just 30, however a straight from school boy who is very good and capable and has an amazing memory- knows where everything is to within a box or 2! Whatever they pay him is not enough. He is to become a farmer when his father retires, but has already got his first lot of sheep and is breeding rams for sale successfully.
Regarding 3 point linkage I don't remember when it came about, but was certainly around in the early 50's on Massey Ferguson TVO 20hp tractors. When our family went on holiday to Cornwall, the farmer Mr Pascoe, used to load the churns of Guernsey milk onto the link box and cart the milk and a load of clinging on children to the road unload the churns and we rode back. Highly illegal now but then, anything went. Regarding combine harvesters I don't know when introduced, but we went to Cornwall during his corn harvest. Us kids-about 6 in all followed the reaper/binder picking up the stooks of corn and stacking them to dry out in the field-stooking, before the threshing machine came to detach the grain from the straw, a job done in the rickyard usually. The corn would be put in a loft to continue drying, by turning it about on the floor. The thrashed straw would be stacked in a rick and thatched to keep it dry inside, or if you had an covered barn, you would stack it inside that, but it needed to be dry as damp straw could go on fire-I have forgotten the principle as to how but it did. All done by combine harvesters and balers, made and stacked by machine! Except for the people who do oats for the straw for thrashing and thatched roofs since they want long un broken lengths of straw.

We went 3 years running twice during harvest and loved every minute of it. The second time my father put electricity in the upstairs for them, a revolution as far as the farmer's wife, Aunty Peggy, was concerned! My father then died the next Christmas, money was tight, but when the Pascoe's had not heard about us going she wrote and mother explained the problem, they called back to say that if we wanted to go they would and did collect us from the station and give us 2 weeks at Easter-all for free. A wonderful time we had too. Since then I have been back a few times with friends and girlfriends and my best mate had his honeymoon there! Oh dear I have gone on a bit!
I will try to find out when 3 point linkage came about-but what a revolution that was. The best thing since the tractor was invented-to replace the horse.

I bought a chainsaw, Sthil, when I was 17 and nearly sawed a foot off, but persevered and got the hang of it. cutting logs and so on for the house. I am one of those self taught idiots who learned by the mistakes I made and i made a few. They are lethal and I am one of the very lucky ones who has lived and can tell the tale. I now have a baby Sthil, after the heavy, big Husky I had before that and it does all I want of it slowly and carefully now.

I am off to the friend's Welsh barn tomorrow for another appointment with a tree stump. I don't know why, I have more than enough to do at home!


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 17 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I've just asked Pirate....
the 3 point linkage came in about 1956,the combine a little earlier.
I looked in Wikipedia....surprisingly, it all started in 1826 in Scotland, developed from 1835 in the USA,1885 in Australia..and in 1952 it was introduced in Europe.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 17 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

That is all very interesting Gregotyn. What lovely people. Sounds as if you had great fun on the farm, and may even have been a bit of help too. Have fun with your tree stumps.

Thanks for that link Gz. By the timing it is possible I just remember before combines, as they would have been slow to come in to the smaller fields then used for grain round our way. Most of the fields have been linked together now, either by taking out the hedges or opening up gaps so the machinery can go from one field to another. There are fields on the northern side of our wood where old maps show 4 fields, now 2 with a gap in the hedge between, plus another 3 or 4 old fields, now combined to 2 all with access between them. Must be over 100 acres now all linked.

I had my time at food bank yesterday, but after that and the day before I went to sleep when I got home. We have to go and see a venue for our Coppice Federation meet next autumn today, otherwise a fairly lazy day with any luck.

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