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tahir



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Location: Essex
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 18 7:49 pm    Post subject: Elderflower cordial fail!  Reply with quote    

I made rather a large batch of elderflower cordial (12 litres) to this recipe this weekend (minus citric acid cos I couldn't get any):

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/531660/homemade-elderflower-cordial

It smells lovely but just tastes sweet with a hint of something.

I can't find the recipe I used last year but I seem to remember steeping the elderflowers in water rather than the syrup. Whatever it was it did actually taste of elderflower.

Any ideas where I've gone wrong? I guess the acid would have made it sharper but it wouldn't have made it more floral would it?

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 18 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

no idea but when you wrote "fail " i was reminded of my batch of elderflower tincture that looked and tasted like chemical waste

Shan



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 18 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Could you decant a small amount and try adding some lemon juice to see if it makes a difference?

NorthernMonkeyGirl



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 18 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Perhaps the acid helps extract flavour instead of/as well as adding its own flavour?

Jam Lady



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 18 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

What was the proportion of flowers to syrup?

I'm puzzled that the recipe mentions peeling off the zest, then slicing lemons and combining with syrup & flowers. Apparently the zest is not used? The whole lemon, zest and all, is sliced and used in the recipe I use. I also use citric acid. Fruit Fresh, to be dusted over cut fruit to prevent browning, is the most readily available. And when I make mine it has a 3-day steeping period.

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 18 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

OK, forgot the recipe said to pare the lemons, I sliced and crushed whole lemons. I used 1.9kg of elderflowers to 10kg sugar and 10 lemons.

I've ordered some citric acid but any sure fire rtecipes that I should use before I do it again?

Nicky Colour it green



Joined: 25 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 18 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

did you pick the flowers on a dry day, in full sun? makes a difference to flavour

Nicky Colour it green



Joined: 25 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 18 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

my recipe is:
elderflower cordial



20 heads of elderflower (picked on a sunny day)

2 lemons

1.8 kg white sugar

1.2 L water

50g citric acid

Peel the lemons, aiming to get only the yellow zest and not the white pith, and place in a heatproof boil along with the elderflowers. Squeeze the juice from the lemons and add to the bowl. Heat the sugar and water together, dissolving, and bring to the boil. Pour over the elderflowers and add the citric acid.. Leave overnight. Next day strain through a sieve and bottle. I tend to keep it in the fridge, or freeze it to keep even longer.

gz



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 18 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I generally process the bottled cordial (tops a quarter turn open) in a pan of cold water,raise to 190 F and hold for 20 mins then close tops and remove from pan to cool.

I haven't had any problem with cordials going off or fermenting.

tahir



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Posts: 44092
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 18 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

been too busy to trry again, will let you know how it goes.

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