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DavidLaw



Joined: 10 Jul 2018
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Location: London
PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 18 7:35 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

looks nice ..!

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 34203
Location: yes
PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 18 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

tidy ( unlike my yard )

the composite recycled plastic for bed sides is an ace idea, did you get them as flatpack kits or is it a matter of cutting lengths, slots etc etc ?

gz



Joined: 23 Jan 2009
Posts: 6327
Location: Ayrshire, Scotland
PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 18 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

billfromlachine wrote:
gz,

These were actually made from what's called composite wood which is a misnomer since they're actually made from recycled compressed plastic but it does help the environment and zero maintenance.

You could also make them out of salvaged pallet wood or other reused material.

Raised beds in our area is pretty much the only option as our soil is heavy clay and like concrete to work with otherwise.

Regards

Bill

gz wrote:
great seeing successful deep beds..aren't these bed walls things that come round pallets of tiles or something similar?


Our soil is the same...like a sodden sponge the minute it rains,like a brick otherwise

Shan



Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Posts: 7573
Location: South Wales
PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 18 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Looks very tidy and well organised.

I can relate to the raised beds as we are on a mix of heavy clay and massive rocks.

billfromlachine



Joined: 08 Jul 2018
Posts: 26
Location: Montreal Canada
PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 18 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Mistress Rose,

The current beds were installed last spring, however, prior to that they were wood and were badly rotting away.

Now we just have cedar wood boards along the back and side fence and cedar has a long life without treating it, however, it is very costly.

Regards + HH

Bill



Mistress Rose wrote:
When I was a child we lived on clay. Dad used to slab it up in the autumn with a spade and let it break down over winter. He added a lot of compost I think too. FIL added so much leaf mould to his garden (courtesy of the local wood) that it is now quite nice soil.

We have raised beds as I find them easier to deal with and far less daunting than being faced with a large patch of ground. Ours have wooden sides, but need to be rebuilt, as even the oak they are made from rots in time.

billfromlachine



Joined: 08 Jul 2018
Posts: 26
Location: Montreal Canada
PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 18 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Shan,

Thank you. We have been gardening this plot for 30+ years and the first years rocks, rocks and more rocks along with tons of mulch, compost, peat moss, etc to build up and loosen the soil....so it took a long time to get things to this stage.

Regards + HH

Bill

Shan wrote:
Looks very tidy and well organised.

I can relate to the raised beds as we are on a mix of heavy clay and massive rocks.

Mistress Rose



Joined: 21 Jul 2011
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 18 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

We use our own western red cedar for the compost heap boards, but used oak for the raised beds. We have made a raised bed for son's in laws our of western red cedar. We really need to repair ours with some.

billfromlachine



Joined: 08 Jul 2018
Posts: 26
Location: Montreal Canada
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 18 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

dpack,

They came as flatpack kits so it was a fairly simple matter of putting them together.

Regards

Bill

dpack wrote:
tidy ( unlike my yard )

the composite recycled plastic for bed sides is an ace idea, did you get them as flatpack kits or is it a matter of cutting lengths, slots etc etc ?

billfromlachine



Joined: 08 Jul 2018
Posts: 26
Location: Montreal Canada
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 18 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Mistress Rose,

Well I must admit the pastic wood kits are rather expensive but given the fact we are getting up in age we decided to go with them due to no maintenance.

Regards
Bill

Mistress Rose wrote:
We use our own western red cedar for the compost heap boards, but used oak for the raised beds. We have made a raised bed for son's in laws our of western red cedar. We really need to repair ours with some.

gregotyn



Joined: 24 Jun 2010
Posts: 1718
Location: Llanfyllin area
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 18 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I thought the sides were euro pallet sides, which build up on a pallet normally, but in a garden situation the base would be omitted. I like the idea of them being recycled plastic, no maintenance appeals!
I have done this with tyres stacked on top of each other a few times, but I get a lot of the wooden sides from work, so may try to use them to grow spuds in, adding a layer at a time as the potatoes grow upwards. By growing this way you get more potatoes to the footprint, so getting lots of potatoes from a given, smaller area. I can't remember the said record of growing this way, but think it is about 1cwt. from one tuber of main crop. I may have a go next year trying the same thing but using a pallet underneath, and using the conventional euro sides-it can only go wrong!
Thank you Bill for the idea.

billfromlachine



Joined: 08 Jul 2018
Posts: 26
Location: Montreal Canada
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 18 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

gregotyn,

You're welcome, actually you could probably go to the maximum height at the beginning and just fill in with more and more earth or compost as the plants get taller.

Regards

Bill

gregotyn wrote:
I thought the sides were euro pallet sides, which build up on a pallet normally, but in a garden situation the base would be omitted. I like the idea of them being recycled plastic, no maintenance appeals!
I have done this with tyres stacked on top of each other a few times, but I get a lot of the wooden sides from work, so may try to use them to grow spuds in, adding a layer at a time as the potatoes grow upwards. By growing this way you get more potatoes to the footprint, so getting lots of potatoes from a given, smaller area. I can't remember the said record of growing this way, but think it is about 1cwt. from one tuber of main crop. I may have a go next year trying the same thing but using a pallet underneath, and using the conventional euro sides-it can only go wrong!
Thank you Bill for the idea.

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 34203
Location: yes
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 18 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

billfromlachine wrote:
dpack,

They came as flatpack kits so it was a fairly simple matter of putting them together.

Regards

Bill

dpack wrote:
tidy ( unlike my yard )

the composite recycled plastic for bed sides is an ace idea, did you get them as flatpack kits or is it a matter of cutting lengths, slots etc etc ?


thanks

billfromlachine



Joined: 08 Jul 2018
Posts: 26
Location: Montreal Canada
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 18 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Folks,

The plastic wood kits are rather expensive. If you have access to some old pallets here's a video showing how you can make your own raised beds for minimal expense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yEfAWWnYys

Regards

Bill

Jam Lady



Joined: 28 Dec 2006
Posts: 1943
Location: New Jersey, USA
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 18 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Anyone ever tried straw bale gardening?

https://bonnieplants.com/library/how-to-condition-and-plant-a-bale-of-straw/

Not especially pretty but does work well. And as the straw breaks down in a year or two it adds organic matter to the garden.

The slope behind / to one side of the house is where a plateau was bulldozed out of the slope to have a place to build the house. It is a "friendly" clay soil (not suitable for pottery, gz) and in the beginning I used to dig in generous helpings of gypsum. That flocculates the fine clay particles - fancy word that means they clump together - and improves drainage.

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 34203
Location: yes
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 18 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

yep.

i covered some very compacted and weedy clay with small bales
planted squash/pumpkin in holes full of compost
fed with mixture=good crop

by the next spring it was pretty good soil with a straw mulch
year after good soil

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