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dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 20 12:30 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

do the cows arrive on the first of july, SSSI and EN timings wetland style?

if so you do need a moo fence as at some point they will decide they are fed up of salad and your beans look nicer

if i was going to take a break before deciding what to do with the lower bit i would make a practical fence at the boundary of the paperwork or a little inside it if that works better in engineering terms and observe it for a while

even light posts and a short run kit from RAPPA or other supplier would sort it easily

even with a 1 joule kit i could moo proof that in a couple of hours
done well it would make 2 legged foxes scream and run

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 20 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    







Trench cleared of rubbish and starting to look towards navigating down.

My current thought is starting off with a 40cm step from two new sleepers about 20cm beyond the bed in the second photo.

That would be a significant drop and its not aimed to be a common path to take. The more drastic I can make the route, the more land is there for other use.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 20 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    






Hitting all sorts of crap now, plastic piping, what may be a plastic dustbin lid, but slowly a path is emerging.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 20 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

jema wrote:

Hitting all sorts of crap now, plastic piping, what may be a plastic dustbin lid, but slowly a path is emerging.


It's *never* a bloody hoard of Viking gold is it? I found a hideous pink glass candle-holder once.

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 20 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

As you say Sean. Well at least it seems to be a path.

dpack



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 20 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

1 1/2 ct diamond that had been lost from a ring in the 50's returned to the owner in the 90's, which would also be about her age

they had searched when it fell out of her engagement ring but had not looked under the floorboards where it had come to rest via a crack

she was thrilled and i got coffee and snacks for a week

i found a 50kg bomb with a pick and as it was severely corroded thought it an odd size of pipe and dug it out in bits until i got to the fins

i am rather more careful with odd metal now, especially if i am fixing historical bomb damage, and having told a few folk that story at least 2 builders i know have found active ordinance stuck in rafters

no hoards so far, plenty of interesting rubbish and a few nice historic things of no commercial value

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 20 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    



Now a path to a level terrace with some deck dismantled a bit more.

Not far off getting to ground level now.

I can see retaining the path is going to be a pig of a job

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 20 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    



Massive fence panel removed, sleepers bounced below and a little more forward.

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Have got a chainsaw ordered as I think that will make demolition go a lot faster. Meanwhile a fair bit more terraced.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 20 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

jema wrote:

Have got a chainsaw ordered as I think that will make demolition go a lot faster...


Good excuse. Don't forget to order the trousers etc.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 20 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

i could not possibly comment.

jema
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So the mystery of what the deck anchored to, turns out to be a concrete lintel inline with the rectangle of the deck, but as you can see from the boards on the right the deck has an additional triangle that has no such support. That was where the original step was. So was that a last minute addition? Either way burying joists that simply rest on a lintel is not a great way to avoid rot.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 20 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Another thought is that whilst the deck is an eyesore it is a harmless one.

The slope and terracing though is not harmless. That slope will be a channel for erosion.

The summer is finite, so probably it's time to divide effort and start retaining efforts, which will also help tidy away the sleepers cluttering up the place.

The lines to retain have pretty much mapped themselves out now.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 20 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

My further thoughts on retention are as follows, this is near a sheer edge and there is a history of subsidence.
As such a bricks/concrete approach to retention would need to be very deep and strong to stay the course, the mere act of adding brick and concrete steps on the slope would be increasing the pressure to subside.
It would need pretty much a seawall on the drop itself to avoid that!
As such a sleepers and spikes approach is cheaper, easier less prone to actually create issues and maintainable if issues occur.

Does that make any sense?

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 20 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

jema wrote:
My further thoughts on retention are as follows, this is near a sheer edge and there is a history of subsidence.
As such a bricks/concrete approach to retention would need to be very deep and strong to stay the course, the mere act of adding brick and concrete steps on the slope would be increasing the pressure to subside.
It would need pretty much a seawall on the drop itself to avoid that!
As such a sleepers and spikes approach is cheaper, easier less prone to actually create issues and maintainable if issues occur.

Does that make any sense?


yep, sleepers and strong deep piles or posts are your friends on such a geology

steps etc can be surface features and the slope is not sliding

we can chat about digging with a pressure washer and penetrating ground when required
tis a pity that machine access is tricky but needs must

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