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Do we want user ratings?
Yes
20%
 20%  [ 1 ]
Yes - but block their display on the home/front page
40%
 40%  [ 2 ]
No
40%
 40%  [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 5

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jema
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 04 8:14 am    Post subject: Display of user ratings on main site  Reply with quote    

Each article we publish can be rated by users and this displays even on the home/front page.

What do we think of this?

jema

Last edited by jema on Wed Nov 10, 04 8:19 am; edited 1 time in total

sean
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 04 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I'd vote to block them on the front page, it seems to me like the sort of feature that would be a prat-magnet (unless there's some safeguard against multiple voting). Even then, I think it clutters things up.

Bugs



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 04 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I think it's interesting to know every now and again which are the more and less popular articles so that we can try to improve things, but we agree (may husband and Ay...well, not hub but you get the point) that the ratings aren't the most effective way of doing it.

So I'm up for getting rid on the front page at least, and potentially even on the articles themselves, unless as Sean say you can fix it so that eg only registered users can vote, and that only once?

On the same note is there any way of provoking proper feedback? For example, if there's an easy way of including a "contact the author" form or just a link to PM so that people can give genuine feedback or ask questions that might be used for future articles or updates.

tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 04 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Agree, get rid of them, and a PM/email to author feature would be good

jema
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 04 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Will see what I can do then, confess that I asked the question without checking how easy the answers are to do

jema

Mrs Fiddlesticks



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 04 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Its not something I'd thought of to do - vote for an article, so I'd ignored it to be honest. Its hard enough writting something ( I'm struggling to do something at the mo, not a natural writer) without thinking its going to be so publicly judged. Now its been pointed out that its there, it would put me off from contributing to be honest. So do get rid of it!

jema
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 04 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

the fiddlesticks crew wrote:
Its not something I'd thought of to do - vote for an article, so I'd ignored it to be honest. Its hard enough writting something ( I'm struggling to do something at the mo, not a natural writer) without thinking its going to be so publicly judged. Now its been pointed out that its there, it would put me off from contributing to be honest. So do get rid of it!


eh vote NO then! at the moment the democratic mandate is against you, but I am inclined to think quite strongly if potential authors are likely to be put off, we need to recognise that view.

jema

sean
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 04 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

If they stay on the main site, but not the front page, would it be possible to move the rating to the end of the article?

jema
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 04 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

sean wrote:
If they stay on the main site, but not the front page, would it be possible to move the rating to the end of the article?


Removed from front page.

It would be possible to move the voting to the end of the article, but it is not possible to do without a code change, which runs into my general question, is the benefit of doing this great enough to make upgrading a pain, as all such changes would need to be redone?

jema

sean
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 04 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Probably not then, but as an ignoramus in these matters I don't know how much work would be involved.

Mrs Fiddlesticks



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 04 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

have voted now, sorry a bit dozy this morning, read the posts to try and understand what it was all about and then posted before voting. I'm probably just an insecure writer, so if no one else is bothered about being voted then do keep it if its a problem to change. Just not sure what purpose it serves. Being able to contact the author and ask questions is a very good step though, makes the author accountable and is constructive too.

jema
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 04 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

We may be in hung for sheep, hung for lamb territory here, seems to be quite a strong view on contact the author, and that change will effect i'm sure the same file where a change would need to be made to place the ratings at the bottom of the page.

jema

sean
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 04 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Well you might as well do both. My view is that people will notice the rating, without noticing how many people have rated the article: if they are going through a set of search results they may not read stuff on the grounds that 2 or 3 people thought it was useless. e.g. I wouldn't find my stock-making article very useful if I found it somewhere, but that doesn't mean there isn't an audience for it. If a small one

jema
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 04 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Well I am just asking on the mambo forums about making the feedback change, no point in working it out for myself if it has been done already.

jema

jema
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 04 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Well after some thought and feedback I have changed my vote, which is a tad nefarious but I hope you will forgive me.

We need to avoid any form of discouragement to contributers.

jema

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