Home Page
   Articles
       links
About Us    
Traders        
Recipes            
Latest Articles
just some advice please AGAIN lads lol

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Downsizer Forum Index -> Shooting and Trapping for the Pot
Author 
 Message
skedone



Joined: 19 Oct 2006
Posts: 351
Location: essex inbetween a blue bit and a green bit
PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 06 11:52 am    Post subject: just some advice please AGAIN lads lol  Reply with quote    

hi

right what i need help with is this two of my good mates go out target shooting and hunting for rabit and wood pigen and they have let me go a few times and im getting quite good (better at live kills strangly than target shooting). now i would like to get my own rifle air/co2 and that is were i need advice can u guys recomend some for me i dont want to spend a fortune if i did i would by a logun as im a student/self employed and dont have a lot of money flying around so just want a good starting rifle for such shooting. like i say it will mainly be for hunting rabit and alike . i have plenety of access to area to hunt as one of my friends is a game keeper

gil
Downsizer Moderator


Joined: 08 Jun 2005
Posts: 18377

PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 06 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

There have been previous threads on this part of the forum abut choosing an air rifle, and you could do a Search for them to see what issues other folk have thought important.

I use a Webley Exocet .177 air rifle with telescopic sight for rabbit and pheasant. Suits me, does the job. Cost of initial set-up was about 250, incl ammo supply.

BTW, like you, I found I was better with moving targets than target practice when I started, but this has evened out over time.

Durbin



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 6
Location: Bristol
PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 06 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

To be honest your better off going to your local gun shop and asking for their adivse!

You cold always buy a copy of 'Airgunner' or 'Airgun World'! They have alto of advise and do reviews on different rifles!

It also depends what your looking for! you mind me asking what your budget is?

I bought a AA S-410 c - splashed out and got the full whack- walnut stock, decent scope,silencer, the pump ( I felt like keeping fit, wouldnt recommend for the couch potatoes )

You also got to bear in mind how often you will use it, no point in spending alto of money if you use hardly use it.

Id advise you to buy one of those mags and just see what is what-

RichardW



Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8427
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales
PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 06 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Durbin wrote:

Id advise you to buy one of those mags


The only trouble with that is mag writers are spoilt for choice & get all the best guns to test FOC. You wont find many budget guns tested & those that are are normaly rubbished (much like the car industry aka top gear / 5th gear ect).


Justme
PS just bought a Webley falcon Raider II twin shot PCP its a dream. Personaly I dont think the Co2 powered guns have the punch to cleanly kill rabbits & larger prey at reasonable ranges.

sparky



Joined: 02 Nov 2005
Posts: 199

PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 06 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

hi well in my experience i would go into a gun shop and try/handle as many diffrent guns as you can as what might be good for one person might not be good for you
eg my frend likes a light gun so he got the AA s200 and i like a hevy gun so i got the harrier x
so go for the feal as much as the price will let you
be safe and have fun

whitelegg1



Joined: 05 Apr 2005
Posts: 409
Location: Woodford Green
PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 06 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Advice advice....

Good idea to have a look / try at a gunshop...
If you say where you're from then someone may be able to point you to a good one / steer you away from a bad one.

The mags......they tend to write everything up as good...I guess they don't test the really rubbich one's, but they do test some that are not good enough for hunting and give them a good write up....they don't want to upset the manufacturers!!

There are some BIG choices to be made, and everyone has differing views...

FAC or sub 12 ft/lbs(no licence) if you have an FAC and where you shoot is cleared for FAC air rifles then they definately give the cleanest kill....however this is probably NOT a good idea for a first rifle.....don't let anyone tell you that you can get away with your rifle running above 12 ftlbs....they won't be there to comfort you when the police destroy your rifle or you end up inside.

.22 or .177 (I'll leave out .20 & .25 as they are perhaps a bit specialized for a first gun. Traditionally .22 was the hunting calibre and .177 for target. The views are slowly changing. In the right rifle .177 is a much more forgiving calibre as it flies flatter, so you have less adjustment to make for range. However .22 is still considered to be harder hitting, so if you can hit the target in the right place then .22 is possibly better....if you are thinking of ratting then .22 (or this is where .25 comes in!)

PCP or spring (gas ram) PCP needs to be refilled from a bottle or pump and tend to be more expensive. HOWEVER it also is vitually recoilles so is easier to be more accurate. So you could do the sorrt of shots a springer shooter would be proud of earlier than him! However if you then shoot a spring gun, you will probably find it difficult.

Shot count on the PCP's varied from about 40 to 500 depending on regulated or un-regulated and how big the air resevoir is. If the sort of scenario you are likely to encounter would require alot of shots (rats) then go for a larger count. If you are likely to have your own air bottle then you may get away with a smaller count and thus a lighter rifle.

Single shot vs multi shot....multishot springers are both rare and tend to be expensive for good ones (Im leaving out the Jackal's Steve!) Single shot OK, but can be a pain in a fast situation or i the dark!

Possibly try going along to a club....you will probably find that the members there are only too eager to show you their pride and joys, and to let you try.....it needs to suit you. Don't let anyone tell you that what suits them is the best thing for you.

For a first gun, then second hand is a good route. When you know what you want, don't go and buy the first one you find, unless it really is a bargain... people are ALWAYS upgrading or selling up...and some people have got a lot of rifles.

One web site with a flurishing second hand trade is www.airgunbbs.com
Join in get involved, as some question & advice.
Be careful, airgunners are sensitive types, and don't like people taking the p! They don't suffer fools on that website, but if you are genuine then you will get some good advice, and probably offers of help.

Well I must finsh my ramble.
Good luck.

PM me if you want to ask me any Q's.

Pete

skedone



Joined: 19 Oct 2006
Posts: 351
Location: essex inbetween a blue bit and a green bit
PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 06 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

thanks for all the advice lads (specialy u whitelegg#) i seem to be looking towards a lightning xl at the mo but not to shure my mate has one so i will try his and see what it is like im looking to spend no more than 300 quid if i can asi say im not rich and this will be my first rifle .

i live in essex rayleigh to be precise as i have stated in thge foreging section so any advice as to were to go would be great

KILLITnGRILLIT



Joined: 14 Sep 2006
Posts: 894
Location: Looking at a screen in the front room
PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 06 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Try looking at airgun or pigeon forums,they`re easily found,if not PM me.

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 44144
Location: Essex
PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 06 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

KILLITnGRILLIT wrote:
Try looking at airgun or pigeon forums,they`re easily found,if not PM me.


Always handy to have a few links, post em here if you like.

KILLITnGRILLIT



Joined: 14 Sep 2006
Posts: 894
Location: Looking at a screen in the front room
PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 06 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I wasn`t sure if it was allowed

Pigeon watch - http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/index.php?s=b51df51ba34098f0828a893920d4aae0&act=idx

AirgunBBS - http://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/register.php

skedone



Joined: 19 Oct 2006
Posts: 351
Location: essex inbetween a blue bit and a green bit
PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 06 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

cheers mate im leaning towards a lighning xl with a ramp up kit as after having a look at my mates collection (just over 25 guns) i really like the lightning its about the right wait for me

Blacksmith



Joined: 25 Jan 2005
Posts: 5025
Location: Berkshire
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 06 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Personal recomendation, Weihrauch HW 95.
Hawke 3-9 X 40 scope. Good for vermin

@Calli



Joined: 03 Jul 2005
Posts: 1682
Location: Galway
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 06 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Oh my goodness! I wouldn't like to meet you out foraging on a dark night... never recognise you in those shades and that hat

Blacksmith



Joined: 25 Jan 2005
Posts: 5025
Location: Berkshire
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 06 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Calli wrote:
Oh my goodness! I wouldn't like to meet you out foraging on a dark night... never recognise you in those shades and that hat

Oh you would ! I'd be the one wearing sun glasses in the dark bumping into trees, falling down ditches etc etc

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 34286
Location: yes
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 06 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

hw 95
the ak 47 of spring guns
a fine choice
adaptable as well
a decent second hand one and some tuning n accessorising is in budget
heavey though ,which is nice for accuracy in a spring gun but a beast to lug about all day
they can become second gun if you get a fac

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Downsizer Forum Index -> Shooting and Trapping for the Pot All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1
View Latest Posts View Latest Posts

 

Archive
Powered by php-BB © 2001, 2005 php-BB Group
Style by marsjupiter.com, released under GNU (GNU/GPL) license.
Copyright 2004 marsjupiter.com