Home Page
   Articles
       links
About Us    
Traders        
Recipes            
Latest Articles
ASDA bans monkfish
Page 1, 2, 3  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Downsizer Forum Index -> Conservation and Environment
Author 
 Message
tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45389
Location: Essex
PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 07 1:00 pm    Post subject: ASDA bans monkfish Reply with quote
    

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6318925.stm

About blinking time. Doesn't say whether they've banned all fish caught using beam trawling.

Be nice to see others follow suit.

Northern_Lad



Joined: 13 Dec 2004
Posts: 14210
Location: Somewhere
PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 07 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

...I read this yesterday, but I got too wound up thinking about the millions of chickens they still abuse, and all the other carp they get up to.

Nice move, but soooooooo much more for them to do. (stop advertising for one. The amount of times I've switched over due to their adverts with kids 'singing' and then forgotten to switch back... )

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45389
Location: Essex
PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 07 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Little steps....

I'm sure they sell a significant amount of monkfish so hopefully it'll have a bit of an impact somewhere. Wonder if any of the other majors have adopted this policy, anyone care to email Waitrose, sainsburys etc to see where they stand on this?

Northern_Lad



Joined: 13 Dec 2004
Posts: 14210
Location: Somewhere
PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 07 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

tahir wrote:
Little steps....

I'm sure they sell a significant amount of monkfish so hopefully it'll have a bit of an impact somewhere. Wonder if any of the other majors have adopted this policy, anyone care to email Waitrose, sainsburys etc to see where they stand on this?


Lots of Monkfish? From Asda? Their target market thinks recycled fish-fingers pre impregnated with ketchup is the hight of sofistication!

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45389
Location: Essex
PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 07 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Northern_Lad wrote:
Lots of Monkfish? From Asda? Their target market thinks recycled fish-fingers pre impregnated with ketchup is the hight of sofistication!


Irrelevant, in the scheme of things if they sell a single monkfish a day at each of their stores that's ever so slightly a lot more than my fishmonger Tony....

Bernie66



Joined: 14 Jan 2005
Posts: 13967
Location: Eastoft
PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 07 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Emailed Sainsburys through their site. Wait and see if its important to them at all.

Bernie66



Joined: 14 Jan 2005
Posts: 13967
Location: Eastoft
PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 07 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

And Tesco

Penny Outskirts



Joined: 18 Sep 2005
Posts: 23385
Location: Planet, not on the....
PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 07 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Waitrose contact if you have an e-mail ready to send

Kate_vanBeek@JohnLewis.co.uk

Bernie66



Joined: 14 Jan 2005
Posts: 13967
Location: Eastoft
PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 07 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Tis done

hedgewitch



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Posts: 5834
Location: Daft wench GHQ
PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 07 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Northern_Lad wrote:
tahir wrote:
Little steps....

I'm sure they sell a significant amount of monkfish so hopefully it'll have a bit of an impact somewhere. Wonder if any of the other majors have adopted this policy, anyone care to email Waitrose, sainsburys etc to see where they stand on this?


Lots of Monkfish? From Asda? Their target market thinks recycled fish-fingers pre impregnated with ketchup is the hight of sofistication!


Could be on for the McD/lapdancing and cider offer from the other thread, then

I'm suspicious of this and not sure it is a step in the right direction as I agree with NL that they probably sell very little. If that's the case, it could equally be seen as loosing a not very profitable line for a lot of good PR. And it would nicely back the chains that do sell more of this kind of fish into a corner at no, (or very little) cost to Asda.

sparky



Joined: 02 Nov 2005
Posts: 199

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 07 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

not beeing funny but how els do you think you will be able to catch monkfish well any bottome dwelling fish for that matter as they dont just jump into your shopping baskit nowadays

yes i think consevation is an issue but not the ways you fish as it is the only practical means of catching the amount needed so you can all have your brain food

hay dont plow the feelds eather cos that is the same thing

but just like the national trust land you cannot touch there is also larg areas were you cant fish

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45389
Location: Essex
PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 07 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Sparky, yes there is truth to what you say but it's also true that beam trawling has a huge impact on the sea floor. Any move to reduce it (and the amazing amount of "byctach" that it must entail has to be a good thing. Agree with HW, maybe they are doing it to have an effect on other retailers, if tit for tat actions by retailers lead to an improvement across the board we all win don't we?

Much better than tit for tat price wars.

sparky



Joined: 02 Nov 2005
Posts: 199

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 07 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

beam trawlers dont realy have that much of a by catch compaird to dredgers witch do the same amount of damage but only target scollops there aloance of bycatch is 10% now i know the actual amount caught can exceed that by a large amount
meening thay would have to dump all the extra fish cought witch is now dead
so in turms of banning monk ban scoolops instead to show thay are hellping (thay wont do that as it is mor popular than monk and the proffit is grater)so i think it is just a poor attempt to look good

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45389
Location: Essex
PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 07 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Interesting. I suppose at the end of the day we need to reduce:

a) the total amount of fishing
b) the amount of dead fish thrown back
c) the environmental impact of techniques used

Anything that makes even a bit of an impact on any of the above is I think welcome. The thing that kills me really is the amount of "over quota" or "bycatch" that has to be "returned", fat lot of good returning tonnes of dead fish to the sea eh?

And I don't really swallow the line that farming fish is sustainable either.

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45389
Location: Essex
PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 07 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

tahir wrote:
And I don't really swallow the line that farming fish is sustainable either.


Although a system like say mussels/oysters that doesn't rely on external feed/medicine inputs is OK (I think).

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Downsizer Forum Index -> Conservation and Environment All times are GMT
Page 1, 2, 3  Next
Page 1 of 3
View Latest Posts View Latest Posts

 

Archive
Powered by php-BB © 2001, 2005 php-BB Group
Style by marsjupiter.com, released under GNU (GNU/GPL) license.
Copyright © 2004 marsjupiter.com