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nettie



Joined: 02 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 05 6:13 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

Can sympathise about the brassicas. The little wotsits had all the leaves off my swedes this winter. Caught them at it!!!

tahir



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 05 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

We've got a pair of woodpigeons the size of turkeys, that virtually live in our garden they pounce on any brassicas.

cab



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 05 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I lost spring onion seedlings to starlings last year. I suspect that they weave them into their nests for the smell, whey seem to go for aromatic plants (like thyme, which they're a bugger for in my garden) to deter fleas.

JonO



Joined: 05 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 05 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I know that our chickens ate the tips of my garlic plants but left them at that, guess they don't like garlic ! Maybe pigeons have the same idea of taste ?

Behemoth



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 05 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I've heard that they'll pull them up out of curiosity. Never grown them myself and no one on our allotments nets them.

Tristan



Joined: 29 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 05 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Sparrows will pull up the sets, haven't the foggiest why but they seem to get some sort of kick out of it! Pushing them in to the neck of the bulb helps if the soil isn't too wet.

joker



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 05 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

tahir wrote:
We've got a pair of woodpigeons the size of turkeys, that virtually live in our garden they pounce on any brassicas.


Sounds like a job for an air rifle and a hot oven

judith



Joined: 16 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 05 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

joker wrote:
tahir wrote:
We've got a pair of woodpigeons the size of turkeys, that virtually live in our garden they pounce on any brassicas.


Sounds like a job for an air rifle and a hot oven


I was thinking more of hot frying pan and butter and some honey and ginger sauce

Bugs



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 05 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

joker wrote:
tahir wrote:
We've got a pair of woodpigeons the size of turkeys, that virtually live in our garden they pounce on any brassicas.


Sounds like a job for an air rifle and a hot oven


I was thinking that. And I'm a vegetarian. You could serve them with cabbage and peas in a pleasing tribute...

We had some woodpigeon land in the garden the other day, seeing them where the chickens normally are was quite disturbing - they are huuuuuge. And our garden slopes uphill, I suspect even I could safely get them in those circumstances. It's just the problem with the small gardens and the neighbours

tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 05 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Bugs wrote:
joker wrote:
tahir wrote:
We've got a pair of woodpigeons the size of turkeys, that virtually live in our garden they pounce on any brassicas.


Sounds like a job for an air rifle and a hot oven


I was thinking that. And I'm a vegetarian. You could serve them with cabbage and peas in a pleasing tribute...


I've been tempted but am not sure on legality and don't posess the necessary firearms (what happened with the catapault leebu?)

Bugs



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 05 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

tahir wrote:
I've been tempted but am not sure on legality and don't posess the necessary firearms (what happened with the catapault leebu?)


Hmm, well so far as I know it might be the size/location of your garden that will cause the biggest problem (plus your skill/experience but you could solve that if you have a friend who knows what they're doing).

The exact rules escape me at the moment, but I believe you need to be a certain distance from public places, and you have to be especially careful that not even a pellet escapes your land.

Don't think woodpigeons have a season, and I think you can use a normal air rifle (ie not needing one with a firearms licence). I'm sure Joker or Deerstalker will be able to fill us in properly.

All in all probably not really possible, but nice to think of. You can always get a stick and practise your aim for the future

Blacksmith



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 05 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Having just spent nigh on 300 on a new rifle, sights etc would seem an ideal solution. However its on the allotment not my garden.
Onion sets 99p a bag of 50. from SCATS, can afford to loose a few, just hope it gives them indigsetion !
Dave

joker



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 05 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

A good solution is an Eagle owl decoy put one of these on the allotment and the pigeons wont visit

Tahir :- if the pellet does not leave the boundries of your land you are not breaking the law the best thing to do is shoot from an upstairs window so any stray pellets bury themselves in the ground and dont leave your boundries

freddie



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 05 11:02 pm    Post subject: do pigeons Reply with quote    

if you get two patatoes a big one and one for the head and stick them together with a cocktail stick, get some chicken flight feathers or seagull feathers and use some for wings and some for tail and hang it up in amongst your crop, all the birds think that a hawk is about and leave you crop alone try it it really works

Lloyd



Joined: 24 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 05 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

As far as I can recall, you must be not only fifty metres from any public highway, but equally and more importantly, be able to show that you have taken all necessary measures to prevent the projectile leaving your property. In the event of a complaint, th e onus is on the complainant to show that the projectile exceeded your boundary in a dangerous way. The law in this instance is actually not all that anti to the shooter. You might wish to plan your angle of fire, and position backstops of say, chipboard, hardboard, etc, several panels thick, beyond where you anticipate the target to be. Fit a cheap sound moderator, say a Parker Hale screw on jobby, for about 20 quid, to help ensure the neighbours are unlikely to hear, take a firing position if possible, from within the house, as in, the muzzle is inside the house, to reduce noise, so shoot out of a window, French doors, back door whatever. Maybe play loud music in the house at the same time. My uncle does the job with a Black Widow catapult and ball bearings to preserve his veg patch!

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