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The delights of lime rendering.

 
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Kitchenwitch



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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Location: Devon
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 07 7:49 am    Post subject: The delights of lime rendering. Reply with quote
    

Hello all!

Well, it's a sort of make-your-own...

Mr. KW and I are going to a lime rendering course at the Yarner Trust in September, and I'm just wondering if anyone has any good (or bad!) experiences with lime that they'd like to offer... We live in a teensy cob cottage which needs re-rendering, and we'd like to do it ourselves; just a tad scary though, as a cob expert who did some internal plastering for us recently said the last time he re-rendered a cob house, the entire house dropped six inches overnight once the concrete render was removed. Guess who's got concrete render...?

Northern_Lad



Joined: 13 Dec 2004
Posts: 14210
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 07 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Cue the terrier-worrier...

Be warned, Kitchenwitch, you not what trouble you're in...

Mary-Jane



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 18397
Location: The Fishing Strumpet is from Ceredigion in West Wales
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 07 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Look you lot, don't keep the Terrier-Worrier away from his work too long today please. He's just recovered from tonsillitis and I've got him captive at home, cement mixer whirring in the yard, about to finish plastering the dressing room upstairs. This will mean I can finally unpack all our clothes and linen out of the boxes and bin bags that I've been living out of for the last 3 years.

I shall be most displeased if he is distracted from this task today...

Northern_Lad



Joined: 13 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 07 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Mary-Jane wrote:
Look you lot, don't keep the Terrier-Worrier away from his work too long today please. He's just recovered from tonsillitis and I've got him captive at home, cement mixer whirring in the yard, about to finish plastering the dressing room upstairs. This will mean I can finally unpack all our clothes and linen out of the boxes and bin bags that I've been living out of for the last 3 years.

I shall be most displeased if he is distracted from this task today...


So getting your dressing room finished is more important than putting a floor in the guest bedroom?

Mary-Jane



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 18397
Location: The Fishing Strumpet is from Ceredigion in West Wales
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 07 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Northern_Lad wrote:
So getting your dressing room finished is more important than putting a floor in the guest bedroom?


Oh don't worry dear...we'll find an old beam in the attic for you to hang upside down from for the night when you come and stay. And there's always the lambing shed.

Gervase



Joined: 17 Nov 2004
Posts: 8655

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 07 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

If you've ever worked with cement you'll find lime a delight to work with. If you've worked with neither you'll get messy, have aching arms but a huge sense of satisfaction at doing things the right way.
The only downside is that, just like cement, lime isn't kind to the skin and can be very nasty if it gets in your eyes, so wear some tough rubber gloves and some safety specs to be on the safe side.
Rendering is surprisingly easy to do, particularly on small cob buildings where you haven't got blooming great scaffold lifts to lug things up.
I'm sure the course will cover all you need to know, but I'd recommend you get hold of “Lime in Building - A Practical Guide” by Jane Schofield, published by The Black Dog Press in Crediton. It's pretty much the standard jumping-off point for anyone wanting to use traditional techniques to preserve their houses, and costs a ludicrously low £4 a copy.
Jane has also written “Cob Buildings - A Practical Guide” with restoration builder Jill Smallcombe, which would also be worth getting hold of.
Otherwise, you'll need to invest in some hessian sheeting or tarpaulins to keep the sun and wind off the render while it cures, a good mist sprayer (the 5-litre 'Kilaspray' ones are ideal) or a mist attachment for your hosepipe, a mixer (hire charges are such that if you're going to be using it for more than a week it's more economical to buy one like this for under £170 and then bung it on eBay or in the small ads when you're through), some trowels and floats, a hawk or two and some sturdy buckets or trugs to lug the stuff around in.
Oh, and the stuff itself - you can get the lime, hair, hessian and the like from either J.J.Sharpe of Oakhampton or Mike Wye at Buckland Filleigh. I've not had any contact with Sharpe's, but I know Mike Wye is excellent and extremely helpful to those starting out with lime. He's also got som useful FAQs and fact sheets you can download.
Any other problems or queries, just let me know.

Gervase



Joined: 17 Nov 2004
Posts: 8655

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 07 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Oh, and you may find that one of you ends up doing all the work while the other stands there barking orders with a clipboard in her (or his) hand!

Mary-Jane



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 18397
Location: The Fishing Strumpet is from Ceredigion in West Wales
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 07 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Gervase wrote:
Oh, and you may find that one of you ends up doing all the work while the other stands there barking orders with a clipboard in her (or his) hand!



Kitchenwitch



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Posts: 25
Location: Devon
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 07 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Er.... terrier-worrier? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh - I geddddit!

Gervase: £4 is my kind of money, so I shall definitely be investing in a copy of that! Mr. KW and I have both had a go with cement-based plaster, and while we did manage to plaster a bathroom between us, it wasn't exactly pretty... Rough-cast, anyone?

The bit about small buildings is reassuring - I had thought we would definitely need scaffolding as it's a two-storey building, but I'm wondering if we could manage something slightly lunatic with a couple of ladders, a large plank and one of us loitering in the road to watch for manic tractor-drivers... (Our house goes straight on to a small lane.) We've had some dealings with Mike Wye because the cob chap who finished off our now-gorgeous fireplace got his stuff from there; they all seem very helpful and yes, the beginners' info they've got looks pretty handy. Guess it'll just be a case of suck it and see!

Nicky cigreen



Joined: 25 Jun 2007
Posts: 9717
Location: Devon, uk
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 07 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

been on the mike wye course - really good. nice pople to deal with when buying materials etc too


Gervase.. saw you on the telly the other day..

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