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moggins

Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 942
Location: Gloucester

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 05 1:11 pm Post subject:

Bugs, that is not a bad idea!! They're not being used to a combination of council bloodimindedness and vandalism due to being next to a pathway leading from a main road to the schools.

The council won't let the allotment holders run a waterpipe through, so any water has to be transported from your home to your allotment.

We did have an allotment there about 6 years ago and it was just a nightmare so we let it go, but your suggestion is a good one, thanks

judith

Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 22789
Location: Montgomeryshire

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 05 1:35 pm Post subject:
Moggins, I have transported poo in the back of an estate. Collected it from a nearby stables - they even gave me the stout feed bags to put it into as well. Had to do the digging myself, but that was OK. Spent mushroom compost is another brilliant soil conditioner. If you can find a source of that, a few bags should go in the back of your car no problem.

nettie

Joined: 02 Dec 2004
Posts: 5888
Location: Suffolk

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 05 5:24 pm Post subject:
I put stable manure in the car too. The plastic haylage/chaff bags are the best, and I line the back of the car with polythene. Horse manure smells go in seconds if you drive up the road afterwards with the windows open You may have to fill the bags yourself, I found if they were more than half - two thirds full i couldn't lift them into the car.

wellington womble

Joined: 08 Nov 2004
Posts: 15051
Location: East Midlands

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 05 5:55 pm Post subject:

There's a guy round here who delivers trailerloads (on the back of a tractor) for 25 quid, but lots are free to collection.

There is also a woman up the road who sells manure from her gate for a quid a carrier bag. Now it doesn't take a genius to work out the econimics, but I tend to go for the bags, as I've no access for a trailer, and couldn't use a load in month of sundays! they are quite easily transportable, too.

LETS scheme might be worth looking into - even if only for the trailer.

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 05 6:54 pm Post subject:

We have a similar problem with light chalky soil. We've added plenty of compost and some manure. Late last year I split up a bale of straw into an empty bulk bag that sand comes in. It's been rotting over winter with the aim of me adding some mushroom spawn. If it fails (it probably will

) then I'll use it on the garden to keep the moisture in.

A bale of straw is easier to transport in a car than bags of manure. Some 'human' activator can help with the decomposition.

moggins

Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 942
Location: Gloucester

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 05 6:56 pm Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

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A bale of straw is easier to transport in a car than bags of manure. Some 'human' activator can help with the decomposition.

I think the other half may threaten me with the nearest loony bin if I ask him to tinkle on the compost heap

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 05 7:01 pm Post subject:
I beleive gardening is for both sexes.

Nanny

Joined: 17 Feb 2005
Posts: 4520
Location: carms in wales

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 05 7:24 pm Post subject: too easy?
and here's me moggs with a shed load of the best stuff in the world and you are too far away to come and collect.............. life is cruel.....................

moggins

Joined: 24 Feb 2005
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Location: Gloucester

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 05 7:26 pm Post subject:
Tell me about it

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 05 7:54 pm Post subject:
We need some form of national manure network. Have you both looked at a freecycle scheme in your areas?

moggins

Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 942
Location: Gloucester

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 05 7:56 pm Post subject:
I have, joined up with mine too. Lots of sofa's and chairs but no manure on offer yet

hardworkinghippy

Joined: 01 Jan 2005
Posts: 1110
Location: Bourrou South West France

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 05 8:35 pm Post subject:
We've got loads of manure and so have all our neighbours, its a shame it's not easier to transport. Talking about easy gardening, we've been enlarging our garden with our new toy. Note the lovely earth - with no digging whatsoever, just chickens on it all winter. Once the plants are planted and have grown up a bit, we mulch and that's it! HWH

Pilsbury

Joined: 13 Dec 2004
Posts: 5645
Location: East london/Essex

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 05 8:48 pm Post subject:
Found out a couple of weeks ago I have a mushroom farm about a mile away under one of the bridges on the A406 so when i get my raised beds built i know where i will be visiting for stuff to fill them

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 05 8:54 pm Post subject:

hardworkinghippy wrote:

Note the lovely earth - with no digging whatsoever, just chickens on it all winter.

Now theres a good topic, gardening with chickens.

Ours do hoover up the bugs and if we had more they could easily dig over the soil, ideal rotovators.

Bugs

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 05 9:28 pm Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

Ours do hoover up the bugs

It's true, that Treacle nearly had my hand off tonight because I wasn't quite nimble enough with the mixed corn

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