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Brownbear

Joined: 28 May 2007
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 08 6:27 am Post subject: Kitchenaid commercial K50

The Kitchenaid whose gearbox 'went' on us has been repaired and returned, and is to be sold as we have replaced it with a Hobart. I think the build quality is not robust, but if anyone would like to buy a machine bought in December, just repaired and in as new nick, for £160 (what we paid for the Hobart off Fleabay), with two stainless bowls, splash guard, whisk, beater and dough hook, then you're more than welcome to it.

It's going on Fleabay next week if nobody here is interested.

Gervase

Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 08 6:48 am Post subject:

I agree about the build - the crown gear stripped on ours as well. Taking it apart it was clear that Kitchenaid had saved a matter of pennies by making it out of nylon rather than brass. Admittedly it's tough nylon, and would probably have withstood normal kitchen use, but we pulped about a hundredweight of hard apples with the fruit mangling attachment, and that did for it. The new gear (which has to be ordered with bearings in its own housing) cost £21 if I recall. So far it hasn't stripped, though I haven't dared put the machine to such heavy use again.
Like a lot of iconic American designs it's disappointing when seen close up - Indian or Afghani BSA copies are better made than Harley-Davidsons, for example.

Gervase

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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 08 6:49 am Post subject:
Sorry BB - not doing a great job of advertising your mixer, am I? For bread, cakes, mashing spuds and general use it's ideal.

Brownbear

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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 08 6:58 am Post subject:

No Gervase, you're right. I am only offering it for sale with the caveat that it's not really as robust as it is made out to be. I would advise any Downsizers to buy a Hobart N50 secondhand (new they're nearly two thou.)

Somebody might want to get this for a wedding present or something though. It looks great and if what you really want is to stand it on the kitchen worktop as evidence that you're middle class, and only whisk up some cream or egg whites from time to time, it's perfect.

If you want to make dough or undertake processing of quantities of food, then you might as well garland it in sycamore twigs and shove it up the chimney for all the good it'll do you. A load of catchpenny junk, it would be the perfect present to buy someone who you had to offer something to, but who you secretly despised and loathed.

bingo

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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 08 7:17 am Post subject:
I will give you a ton for this?

Brownbear

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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 08 7:26 am Post subject:

bingo wrote:

I will give you a ton for this?

I have no idea whether or not you want to, but I doubt you will. I wouldn't take a ton for it.

bingo

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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 08 7:36 am Post subject:
Well that's the end of that then.

Stacey

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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 08 10:05 am Post subject:
Should've got a Kenwood

Simon S

Joined: 13 Jan 2005
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 08 12:17 pm Post subject:

Gervase wrote:

the crown gear stripped on ours as well. Taking it apart it was clear that Kitchenaid had saved a matter of pennies by making it out of nylon rather than brass

Many years ago I worked (briefly) as a service engineer for Hobart, and some of the commercial machines had a similar feature (some of the others had a shear pin) so that if you overloaded the machine the gear would fail before you smashed the gearbox

Simon

kevin.vinke

Joined: 19 Dec 2006
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Location: Niedersachsen, Germany

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 08 12:59 pm Post subject:

Simon S wrote:

Gervase wrote:

the crown gear stripped on ours as well. Taking it apart it was clear that Kitchenaid had saved a matter of pennies by making it out of nylon rather than brass

Me too

The kitchen aid gear is meant to strip if you overload it.
BB your new Hobart will do the same if make it work too hard.

Brownbear

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 08 1:01 pm Post subject:
The gearbox disintegrated with 2lb of dough in the mixer - it's rated for 4lbs. I'd hardly call that overloading.

cab

Joined: 01 Nov 2004
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 08 1:02 pm Post subject:

Stacey wrote:

Should've got a Kenwood

Only if you can get the old models with metal gears, when I went poking in a more recent one it also had nylon gears which wouldn't be any more robust than the kitchen aid ones.

Although I quite agree about the build quality on the older Kenwood chefs, those things just seem to run, and run.

Brownbear

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 08 1:06 pm Post subject:

cab wrote:

Stacey wrote:

Should've got a Kenwood

There is in fact still a commercial version of the Kenwood which employs metal in the gears. It is available from Nisbets and no doubt other places too.

Jb

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 08 1:07 pm Post subject:

Brownbear wrote:

cab wrote:

Stacey wrote:

Should've got a Kenwood

There is in fact still a commercial version of the Kenwood which employs metal in the gears. It is available from Nisbets and no doubt other places too.

The Kenwood PM range still uses metal gears

kevin.vinke

Joined: 19 Dec 2006
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Location: Niedersachsen, Germany

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 08 1:55 pm Post subject:

Brownbear wrote:

The gearbox disintegrated with 2lb of dough in the mixer - it's rated for 4lbs. I'd hardly call that overloading.

Not an accusation. The kitchenaid just can´t cope with the loading (whatever it says in the specs).

I´ve repaired more than my fair share of N50´s too because typically they were used at their max capacity. They´re a nice machine though.
If you ever need part no etc. let me know.

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