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Brownbear



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 09 9:39 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

The bait should be on the far side of the treadle.

Though this one sounds trap-wise and you might just have to sit up all night with a rifle till you get the beggar.

markjadams



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 09 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

How and where should they be placed?

Mark.

Tavascarow



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 09 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I've not tried live traps but I've been told most of the manufactured ones are way to small & need to be double the size.
If it where me I would lamp & squeek the culprit & sell the trap on E-bay.

whitelegg1



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 09 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Do you tie the bait to the trap?

Pete

KILLITnGRILLIT



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 09 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Personally I would have used snares, cheap and therefore you can use many of them and increase the chance of a catch and quick dispatch of a fox.
Check all traps at dawn, dusk and just before bed.






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dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 09 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

snares are not for me as there are a variety of other critters about
piglet in a noose isnt something i want to find (or my daft old wooly wolf )

Bodger



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 09 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I've done very well with fox traps in the past. I don't put the bait in the trap but dig a shallow pit and place a dead chicken in it before placing the trap actually over the bait.
If you have a problem with the fox trying to get at the bait without entering the trap then surround the three sides with sharp prickles such as gorse.
'Thick' inexperienced young foxes in Autumn are always easier to catch than older ones with some miles on the clock.

Brownbear



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 09 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

It should be noted that it is unlawful to use fallen livestock, such as dead poultry, as fox-trap bait. This comes under disease prevention legislation. You could always slaughter one of your own fowl to use as bait, but that rather negates the chicken-protection purpose of trapping foxes in the first place.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 09 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

What about using some tinned dog food? Some smells quite strongly and people seem to use it to feed the critters round here.

whitelegg1



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 09 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Depends on how many chickens you have...
For me with 3 hens, it would semm a little rash!

However if I had a flock of 600, one dying to save many might seem to have more validity...

Pete

Once one has caught the fox...
What is a legal method of dispatch for the urban dweller?

Without a open FAC, is zero range shotgun permissable?
Or in fact zero range .22 air rifle? (Would not entertain anything more than zero range with this!)
Shame that zero range rimfire would NOT be allowable, as this would seem to be the most suitable and quiet option!

Brownbear



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 09 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I've found cat food much better a bait than dog food, no idea why.

Brownbear



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 09 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

whitelegg1 wrote:

Once one has caught the fox...
What is a legal method of dispatch for the urban dweller?

Without a open FAC, is zero range shotgun permissable?
Or in fact zero range .22 air rifle? (Would not entertain anything more than zero range with this!)
Shame that zero range rimfire would NOT be allowable, as this would seem to be the most suitable and quiet option!


You could take the cage, fox and all, to somewhere you do have permission to shoot it with your .22, though I prefer to shoot them at point-blank range with a .410 - fairly quiet compared to a 12-bore.

Never use an airgun on a fox. Not even at point-blank range. You'd be very unlikely to kill it outright, and when you've wounded it, what then? You'd also be laying yourself open to a charge - rightly, in my view - of causing unnecessary suffering.

whitelegg1



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 09 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Fair point.
I'll trust your judgement.
I'm now on the the lookout for a nice and cheap .410, some subs and possibly as second shorter stock for the kids

Pete

Brownbear



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 09 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

If you do move the cage with the fox in it, mind your fingers. And remember to disinfect everything after shooting it, including some Jeyes Fluid or similar where the blood pooled if it's in your garden. They carry Weil's disease.

SteveP



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 09 1:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Live catch trapping foxes Reply with quote    

Back to the original problem (I would have posted earlier but not been online). A fox will be reluctant to tread on the wire so cover it with straw or soil. If you can cover the outside with straw bails so it is like an earth tunnel even better.

When I used a live catch trap I used bailing twine tied to the bait, passed out the back of the trap and back under to the treadle. If the bait is pulled the treadle drops.

Steve

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