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Blue Sky

Joined: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 7658
Location: France

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 09 5:44 pm Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

I thought the cows grazing next to the poultry remains was worrying, but again, not surprising.

Me too. And you guys in the DEFRA cloak aren't even allowed to feed your pigs on the 'homegrown - organic' produce from your own garden if it has gone via the kitchen.

If I were in the UK and had livestock I would have to think twice about 'law abiding'.

Azura Skye

Joined: 14 Jun 2005
Posts: 2199
Location: Carmarthenshire

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 09 6:02 pm Post subject:
I got really sad about consumerism yesterday. It's everywhere - including myself, and it's blinking annoying (and guilt inducing) when you satisfy it like a bad addiction. :/ But I think I needed to feel that because I'd gotten complacent, and there's so much more stuff I can do that's proactive and helpful. So feeling down is motivation to change sometimes!

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 09 6:04 pm Post subject:

Simon wrote:

Treacodactyl wrote:

I thought the cows grazing next to the poultry remains was worrying, but again, not surprising.

Me too. And you guys in the DEFRA cloak aren't even allowed to feed your pigs on the 'homegrown - organic' produce from your own garden if it has gone via the kitchen.

If I were in the UK and had livestock I would have to think twice about 'law abiding'.

It's a European wide law...

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The Animal By-Products Regulation (EC) No. 1774/2002 prohibits catering waste from being fed to farmed animals. This applies in all EU member states and applied from 1 May 2003.

https://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/by-prods/wastefood/cater-qa.htm

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 09 7:28 pm Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

Simon wrote:

Treacodactyl wrote:

I thought the cows grazing next to the poultry remains was worrying, but again, not surprising.

Me too. And you guys in the DEFRA cloak aren't even allowed to feed your pigs on the 'homegrown - organic' produce from your own garden if it has gone via the kitchen.

If I were in the UK and had livestock I would have to think twice about 'law abiding'.

It's a European wide law...

Quote:

The Animal By-Products Regulation (EC) No. 1774/2002 prohibits catering waste from being fed to farmed animals. This applies in all EU member states and applied from 1 May 2003.

https://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/by-prods/wastefood/cater-qa.htm

Are you not familiar with the concept of France?

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 09 7:35 pm Post subject:

Azura Skye wrote:

I got really sad about consumerism yesterday. It's everywhere - including myself, and it's blinking annoying (and guilt inducing) when you satisfy it like a bad addiction. :/

But I think I needed to feel that because I'd gotten complacent, and there's so much more stuff I can do that's proactive and helpful. So feeling down is motivation to change sometimes!

Yeah, definitely, and doing something positive is such a lifting experience that it really gives you a lift.

I do believe people are biting back against industrial food though- the local small towns seem to be doing so much better than I remember them as a child in the '80's/90's.

Blue Sky

Joined: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 7658
Location: France

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 09 7:40 pm Post subject:

Rob R wrote:

Treacodactyl wrote:

Simon wrote:

Treacodactyl wrote:

I thought the cows grazing next to the poultry remains was worrying, but again, not surprising.

Me too. And you guys in the DEFRA cloak aren't even allowed to feed your pigs on the 'homegrown - organic' produce from your own garden if it has gone via the kitchen.

If I were in the UK and had livestock I would have to think twice about 'law abiding'.

It's a European wide law...

Quote:

The Animal By-Products Regulation (EC) No. 1774/2002 prohibits catering waste from being fed to farmed animals. This applies in all EU member states and applied from 1 May 2003.

https://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/by-prods/wastefood/cater-qa.htm

Are you not familiar with the concept of France?

Obviousely not.

We didn't move here to live like the froggies.

Sorry.

resistance is fertile

Joined: 24 Oct 2008
Posts: 1534
Location: The heart of North Devon

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 09 7:42 pm Post subject:

There are some odd connections in the world of food waste too.

Eg, in UK waters we chuck away some 600,00 tonnes a year of freshly caught fish before it even reaches the shores/shops, purely because according to CFP regs its the wrong sort of fish!!

Iceland generates annual marine exports of around $1.4 billion from not much more than this as its entire catch.

Since the EU banned the feeding of animal waste to livestock (supposedly to stop the risk of BSE) we have mainly turned to Brazilian Soya as a source of protein.

The area needed to meet this rise in EU demand is the same as the area deforested in Brazil since 1996.

Like I said, some odd connections.

Last edited by resistance is fertile on Tue Jul 21, 09 7:51 pm; edited 1 time in total

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 09 7:42 pm Post subject:
I think the Brits are getting more like the French every day.

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 09 8:08 pm Post subject:

Simon wrote:

Rob R wrote:

Are you not familiar with the concept of France?

Obviousely not.

We didn't move here to live like the froggies.

Sorry.

Sorry for the misunderstanding, I was referring to Treac, though

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 09 8:28 pm Post subject:

resistance is fertile wrote:

Eg, in UK waters we chuck away some 600,00 tonnes a year of freshly caught fish before it even reaches the shores/shops, purely because according to CFP regs its the wrong sort of fish!!

Iceland generates annual marine exports of around $1.4 billion from not much more than this as its entire catch.

Since the EU banned the feeding of animal waste to livestock (supposedly to stop the risk of BSE) we have mainly turned to Brazilian Soya as a source of protein.

You've highlighted two of the things that bother me most in UK food there...

And as I was thinking about today- how much better off are we as a result of the legislation? Have we really saved anything equal to the cost (and I mean the full cost, not just the cost to government) of implementing & complying with this legislation? I'd like to think that the measures brought in post-FMD [or insert your crisis of choice here] would be enough to stop it happening again, but I very much doubt it. It's all fiddling about at the wrong end of the spectrum & benefiting very few.

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 6540
Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 09 8:33 pm Post subject:
Unfortunately I'm done with college and back in my hometown, which doesn't have very good dumpster diving - most stores have compactors now. Maybe I should go out searching again though.... The biggest issue is that the easiest food to find thrown out is the stuff I'd care for the least (Dunkin Donuts, blech!)

twoscoops

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 1924
Location: Warwickshire

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 09 9:53 pm Post subject:

Sadly I think the amount of food disposed of by supermarkets is a distraction. While retailers factor in wastage to business plans they (we) are acutely aware that wastage = erosion of margin. I think that if you spread those bins of wasted food between the mouths that were fed by a shop every day then it would be tiny compared to what people bin at home, where I fancy the cost of such waste is rarely considered.

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 09 9:58 pm Post subject:

twoscoops wrote:

While retailers factor in wastage to business plans

Yeah, like making sure it is the supplier who foots the bill

twoscoops

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 1924
Location: Warwickshire

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 09 10:02 pm Post subject:
No I don't do that, I think about what I will sell and If I don't I take the hit on margin.

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 09 10:06 pm Post subject:
If only ASDA were the same hence the washed spuds warning

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