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sean
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 09 1:57 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

Here's another version.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 09 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Thanks

Jonnyboy



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 09 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

White wine and cider vinegar in equal quantities as the liquid element.

I fear for your taste buds.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 09 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I've eaten it, went with a friend to pick one up in China town and his mother cooked it along with rather a splendid banquet. Quite nice IIRC although some were put off by others playing with the eyes with their chop-sticks.

If I had one I would probably steam it with plenty of chopped spring onions and ginger in it's middle and a very good splash of Shaoshing wine, a splash of soy sauce and perhaps a few drops of sesame oil. Mmmm.

Let us know how it tastes, also very interested in growing my own carp.

Silas



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 09 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

OK, Carp, according to a friend of mine who works at Rodbaston Aquaculture centre.

"Carp are a very easy fish to farm, they put on flesh very quickly and can grow to saleable weight in no-time if fed on a high protien diet. They can also live and thrive in conditions that many fish species find intolerable. They were bred in the middle ages for food, but you have to remember that people were not as fussy about what they ate in those days.

Most, well, nearly all the carp we breed is for the angling market and a few for the ornamental fish market, there are relatively few bred for the table in this country, there is very little flavour in carp, and what there is is not particularly nice, it is also a fish that is very difficult to fillet. These days, farmed salmon is probably cheaper and certainly more edible."

So there you go try it and see.

No matter what, it can't be as bad as snails can it?

Gervase



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 09 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

The only time I've cooked it it was muddier than a badly farmed trout and very bony. Bust option would be to take the flesh off and make quenelles, as you do with pike.
Purging it, as HFW did, might make a difference, I suppose.

resistance is fertile



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 09 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Big issue with us at the mo!

I want Trout in our ponds , Carrie wants carp etc .

When we go to Italy everyone eats fish from the lake (kept in a freshwater tank overnight to clean it up), and I cant deny its lovely.

Mrs R



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 09 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

perhaps that high protein diet and fattening in superquick times affects the flavour the same way it does in chicken!

I'm thinking carp may well be good with a strong sauce, like sweet and sour/similar chinesey type ideas....

this one I have will be steam-braised with whatever we have in te cupboard I think as the recipes given we don't quite have all the ingredients for!

Silas



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 09 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Ixy wrote:
perhaps that high protein diet and fattening in superquick times affects the flavour the same way it does in chicken!



Well, could be, though the one we had was line caught, but it still could have been intensively farmed I suppose and used to stock the lake where it was caught.

Do let us know what it was like. I like fish and if you do manage a good meal out of it you may tempt me to try it again.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 09 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

resistance is fertile wrote:
I want Trout in our ponds , Carrie wants carp etc .


Why not both, don't they co-exist?

Mrs R



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 09 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I made us a dedicated aquaculture thread

http://forum.downsizer.net/viewtopic.php?p=808154#808154

Silas



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 09 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Tried it yet?

cab



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 09 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Got to be from flowing water; carp from a pond tastes horrid.

Even then it isn't one of my favourite fish. I'd tend to use it as the basis of a fish soup.

Mrs R



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 09 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

it was fine! don't know what all the fuss is about - not an AMAZING flavour like mackerel, but perfectly edible. I steam braised with lime juice, white wine vinegar and cider vinegar, thyme and parsely, with lemon slices and bay leaves in it's belly. Lots of nasty bones, but they were easy to pick out. Would certainly eat again, but not that often I don't think?

Rob R



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 09 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

That's another one off the list- it was a whole fish and perhaps filleting and boning would make it easier to eat, might try that next time.

Right, what next... Anyone know any good Guinea Pig recipes?

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