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T.G

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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 10 11:41 am Post subject:
well i'm sure if they have 'enjoyed' the water together then all is as it should be regards fertility at least

SandraR

Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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Location: Devon

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 10 11:46 am Post subject:
I don't think water is essential but certainly with the heavier breeds it is thought that mating on water 'helps'. Many a time I thought my poor goose would drown...she was held under for so long

Sonny

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
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Location: South Lincs

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 10 5:43 pm Post subject:
the goose will go and wet her underside then go and sit back on the nest to keep the humidity up, it increases hatchability and is proven by the fact that geese eggs need a higher humidity in incubators. The higher humidity also makes it easier to hatch, many goslings are lost due to being unable to hatch

chez

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Location: The Hive of the Uberbee, Quantock Hills, Somerset

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 10 5:45 pm Post subject:

GSHP wrote:

I don't think water is essential but certainly with the heavier breeds it is thought that mating on water 'helps'.

That's what I've always understood - and with heavy breed ducks, too. It's a bit like a circus act for them otherwise.

Sonny

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
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Location: South Lincs

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 10 6:53 pm Post subject:

Soon after an egg is laid, a small air bubble forms in the large end under the shell. A membrane separating the mass of the egg and the air bubble serves as a diaphragm to relieve stress and pressure resulting from thermal changes of temperature. The drier the ambient air is, naturally the more fluid is depleted and the faster the bubbles grows. Correct humidity insures that the bubble does not grow to a certain degree by the time the embryo is ready to hatch, but that the air bubble does not enlarge to the point of depleting the fluids that are necessary for the final growth of the embryo. The importance of correct humidity is more apparent at the end of incubation. The normal condition is that the bubble has enlarged to the point where the chick can reach his beak through the membrane wall and pick around the shell breaking the bubble area off as a door. If humidity has been excessive, the chick may not reach the bubble but will pip the shell in the fluids under the bubble and may drown at that moment, before he is able to go any further with his effort to release himself from the confines of the egg. On the other hand, if humidity has been too low, the bubble will be oversized and the fluids under it will have dehydrated to the point where final development of the embryo will be retarded and the chick may become stuck to the shell when it pips. In this condition, the chick will exhaust itself but will not be able to get out of the shell. After half a day, a chick that is stuck to the shell, after pipping, may be relieved by pulling the top of the shell off.

Ginkotree

Joined: 26 Jun 2008
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Location: south west wales

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 10 7:25 pm Post subject:

Thanks Sonny for that info, makes everything more of a wonder at how any life gets going when you think about it all!
I have hopes that all will be well as she successfully hatched a clutch last year and she has been coming out to get her underside very wet, I thought she was just getting a bit shaggy from all the feathers she has put in her nest..She Knows best..
The other Girlstarted sitting later and has access to water but they both now have water next to them so at least they are getting the best chance

Sonny

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
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Location: South Lincs

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 10 6:48 am Post subject:

thats all you can do is give them opportunity to use whats available, I hope all goes well for you, btw I love goslings, wehen kids we helped the last egg from a clutch hatch and she became Imprinted my mother still has her 29 years later and loves the TV in the morning when she comes in to say hello, I know shes a goose but Dilly Duck spends most of her time with mums dog, including getting on the settee if she manages to get in beyond the utility room or kitchen

Ginkotree

Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Posts: 2956
Location: south west wales

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 10 7:49 am Post subject:
My Goodness, are you telling me that a Goose can live 29 years Thats amazing, what an amazing picture that must make in your living room...a very special family indeed

pookie

Joined: 01 Aug 2006
Posts: 4984
Location: Mid-Wales

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 10 8:12 am Post subject:
I believe they can live up to 40 years

SandraR

Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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Location: Devon

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 10 9:42 am Post subject:
Our gander is approx. 30 years as far as we know by working back through the different owners and how long each owned him.

Ginkotree

Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Posts: 2956
Location: south west wales

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 10 10:03 am Post subject:
They must have been very happy..that means my geese will probably outlive me..If only they could talk, there would be a story or two...

T.G

Joined: 13 Sep 2009
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 10 10:07 am Post subject:
My youngest wants geese again - we have had them on and off, we had some toulouse geese, they're rather smashing, and some chinese geese - very much i find like indian runners as n the way they stand

Ginkotree

Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Posts: 2956
Location: south west wales

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 10 5:14 pm Post subject:
Ive been telling everyone about geese living so long, we are all amazed ..and musing how they could have a few new "owners" in thier life time and them saying, "Here we go again, More Beginners"

SandraR

Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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Location: Devon

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 10 5:17 pm Post subject:
I'm sure Henry thought that when he came to us five years ago. He had an air of haughtiness about him.

Ginkotree

Joined: 26 Jun 2008
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Location: south west wales

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 10 7:09 pm Post subject:
Yes...my gander should be called Grander...

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