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sako



Joined: 11 Oct 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 10 10:25 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

The first stop is the FLO, they are very helpful people, but such a small area might cause some problems, but it might be possible to obtain one with a clause that you can only shoot from a high seat, i know a friend who gained permission for a .22 rimfire with that clause.
As BB states, no worries with the .17 as bullet will break up.
Still you don't know till you ask, so ask the FLO.
Cheers
Richard

Matt the Rat



Joined: 15 Jun 2010
Posts: 6

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 10 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

The difference between a Firearm Certificate and a Shotgun Certificate is that the police have to be able to prove that you are not suitable to have a shotgun certificate, whereas, the applicant has to prove that they are a suitable person to get a firearm certificate ( I hope that makes sense).

Applications for FAC from people who already have some time under their belt with a SGC are always favoured over first timers for an FAC.

As has already been suggested, some time spent with someone experienced will go down well, and it won't hurt to have a chat with your local FLO.

Old-Chads-Orchard



Joined: 07 Dec 2005
Posts: 386
Location: Malpas, Cheshire
PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 10 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Have simliar issue, spoke to the FO and he said an application for a FAC air rifle would be looked upon more favourably than rimfire, sorting my paperwork out now for a 35lb/ft PCP .22 air rifle, will be good out to 60m ish for bunnies.

perlogalism



Joined: 27 Nov 2009
Posts: 440
Location: Near Welshpool
PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 10 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

offroading.net wrote:
Have simliar issue, spoke to the FO and he said an application for a FAC air rifle would be looked upon more favourably than rimfire, sorting my paperwork out now for a 35lb/ft PCP .22 air rifle, will be good out to 60m ish for bunnies.


That's interesting. I thought a FAC for an air rifle was pretty much the same as a FAC for rimfire? I do have a .22 PCP which could easily be uprated. That'll do for all but the fox's....

matt_hooks



Joined: 01 Aug 2010
Posts: 312
Location: Lambourn(ish) Berkshire
PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 10 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Brownbear, I'm sorry but the ACPO guidelines state that the issue or otherwise of a FAC should specifically NOT be equated purely to need.

All those people who go off at the weekend to shoot paper at a range do not "need" their guns!

If you can prove that you have a safe place to use the weapon, and that you are not unfit to hold it due to previous behaviour or a medical condition, then your FAC should be issued.

If you think that a firearm might do the job better, then you should apply for one!

Have a word with the BASC firearms guys, they will help you with your application and they know the firearms law inside out!

Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
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Location: South West
PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 10 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

matt_hooks wrote:
Brownbear, I'm sorry but the ACPO guidelines state that the issue or otherwise of a FAC should specifically NOT be equated purely to need.

All those people who go off at the weekend to shoot paper at a range do not "need" their guns!


They do you know, they're not going to throw the bullets at the target by hand.

Behemoth



Joined: 01 Dec 2004
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Location: Leeds
PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 10 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Darts.

frewen



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 10 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

*giggle* - blowpipe

matt_hooks



Joined: 01 Aug 2010
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Location: Lambourn(ish) Berkshire
PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 10 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Brownbear wrote:
matt_hooks wrote:
Brownbear, I'm sorry but the ACPO guidelines state that the issue or otherwise of a FAC should specifically NOT be equated purely to need.

All those people who go off at the weekend to shoot paper at a range do not "need" their guns!


They do you know, they're not going to throw the bullets at the target by hand.


He he, I dunno, most of the would be more accurate if they did that!

Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
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Location: South West
PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 10 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

matt_hooks wrote:

If you think that a firearm might do the job better, then you should apply for one!


I might just consider doing that - thanks for the advice.

matt_hooks



Joined: 01 Aug 2010
Posts: 312
Location: Lambourn(ish) Berkshire
PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 10 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Brownbear wrote:
matt_hooks wrote:

If you think that a firearm might do the job better, then you should apply for one!


I might just consider doing that - thanks for the advice.


Sarcasm, excellent!

RichardW



Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8439
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales
PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 10 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Popcorn anyone?

matt_hooks



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Location: Lambourn(ish) Berkshire
PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 10 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

That's what you get for trying to be helpful I guess!

Chuck me some of that popcorn Richard, gotta keep my strength up!

Shane



Joined: 31 Oct 2005
Posts: 3128
Location: Doha. Is hot.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 10 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

You'll need your strength if the bear gets his teeth into you. And a dictionary, I'd suggest

matt_hooks



Joined: 01 Aug 2010
Posts: 312
Location: Lambourn(ish) Berkshire
PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 10 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Ah, I swallowed a dictionary as a child. Probably explains the funny shaped head.

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