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snail id ,succineidae spp ? but which one?

 
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dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 15 12:39 pm    Post subject: snail id ,succineidae spp ? but which one?  Reply with quote    



i found this wee thing(13 mm) on a reed in the yard,i think i have it as S.spp but after an hour or so with the id guides i cant name it yet.

any snail experts?

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 15 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

im turning it loose so if it is a new spp there are a few photos but no specimen,hope that isnt an oops

buzzy



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 15 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I think it's probably Succinea putris, but have you more pictures to show? If you have one that wouldn't show the shell interior if the shell was empty (so one just sees the edge of the opening), that might help. Hope I've explained what I mean clearly.

Henry

dpack



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 15 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    



as you can see there was a tenant

iirc the edge of the mouth of the shell had a small outward flange

dpack



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 15 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

if i can find that one or another or empty shell i will get a photo looking into the shell.

first one i have seen in the bramble bed ,it is quite damp and we are very close to the river so the habitat sort of fits

that parasite on the s.putris wiki page is horrible but the snail does quite look like the ones in google images but it is perhaps a bit paler ,maybe they are quite varied/coloured by diet etc .

thanks .

ps i had no idea there were so many uk snail species,nice wee critters unless they are munching carefully raised seedlings.

buzzy



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 15 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

My (more or less) tame snail expert says "'probably Succinea putris'. If it was very large (above 20mm) the identification is safe; otherwise, a pale body strongly suggests S. putris, but can't quite rule out Oxyloma elegans (= pfeifferi) which usually, but not quite always, has a blackish body. )

Since he makes no other suggestions I don't think further photographs will help. Best look for a bigger one!

Henry

dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 15 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

i have just put a ruler on the lid and recon it was a little over 20mm so i recon we got it .

thanks folks.

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