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Barefoot Andrew
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 10 4:51 pm    Post subject: Windows 7 NLA Reply with quote
    

Might be a nice idea for ordinary users, but for techies is one of the most infuriating ideas MS have ever conceived. Discuss.
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Barefoot Andrew
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 10 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Network Location Awareness - the 'home', 'private', 'work' gubbins. The Devil's work.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 10 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Never 'eard of it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 10 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Our netbook came with it, very pretty, soon got switched to Linux.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 10 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

and it's much better now

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 10 7:30 am    Post subject: Re: Windows 7 NLA Reply with quote
    

Barefoot Andrew wrote:
Might be a nice idea for ordinary users, but for techies is one of the most infuriating ideas MS have ever conceived. Discuss.
A.

If you want an O/S for techies you should use Linux, Windows 7 is primarily a mass-market O/S for "ordinary" users. I'm not entirely sure what it does, but when you connect to a new network it seems to want to know how trustworthy that network is - which seems like a good idea. How does Linux handle this situation?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 10 8:28 am    Post subject: Re: Windows 7 NLA Reply with quote
    

orangepippin wrote:
Barefoot Andrew wrote:
Might be a nice idea for ordinary users, but for techies is one of the most infuriating ideas MS have ever conceived. Discuss.
A.

If you want an O/S for techies you should use Linux, Windows 7 is primarily a mass-market O/S for "ordinary" users. I'm not entirely sure what it does, but when you connect to a new network it seems to want to know how trustworthy that network is - which seems like a good idea. How does Linux handle this situation?


I gave up being a techie in 1980, however, bits linger. In our house we have two Linux boxes and two Macs sharing a wireless router. One of the Macs has XP in a virtual machine. My limited knowledge suggests that the problem is as much to do with marketing as it is to do with technology. MS pretends that no other operating systems exist, Apple treats Windows with contempt and Linux ploughs a Unix-like furrow (in my cynical opinion).

We decided to experiment with file sharing, this is what I did: with a Linux desktop, the default settings are "stealth mode" and no other systems on the network can detect its existence. I installed a file sharing application called "Samba" and then was able to specify, on a folder(directory) by folder basis, which folder(s) can be accessed by other users on the network. Access can be defined as read only or read/write. To install new software involves about 5 clicks, typing in the name of the application and inputting the administrator's password.

Linux is a multi-user system, so each User can decide which (if any) folders can be shared. So, if you don't completely trust the rest of the network, it is possible to keep a lot of stuff out of sight. Obviously, the system software is kept out of sight ( a User does not have the permissions to enable sharing of these folders.)

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 10 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

The problem I find with Microsoft is they seem to do things more with the home market in mind these days, to help protect those will less knowledge than people in the industry but then also take that technology over to the work place, where it just creates so many more problems. Take UAC for instance, pain in the backside.

They should have home as home and business as business and stop integrating the two.

OP



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 10 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

MS have really gone completely overboard with security stuff. Fortunately it is quite easy to turn the UAC off.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 10 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

orangepippin wrote:
MS have really gone completely overboard with security stuff. Fortunately it is quite easy to turn the UAC off.


About 90% of the security holes in Office recently were avoided by leaving UAC on.

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